A Bridge Too Far

[Smiley Miley 66]

Well from the feedback i ve had. Saturday 21st or 28th September next year. For A Bridge Too Far. See what Peter says at Entoyment next week, when we are there fighting the Wild West.

[martin goddard]

If it helps with counting commitments  i would opt for 28th September 2019 but the other date is fine too.

[Smiley Miley 66]

Just in case people thought it's quite on the Belgium border ? I will be back on task early next month, i will get rough OOBs out for the forces needed. As doing these pirate ships especially the" Black Pearl " has taken over everything. As i need a force to start play testing with. The Black Pearl has nearly become a complete rebuild, as you might see in pictures in another part of the forum.

[Colonel Kilgore]

Miles: from the link that Mr Lurkio kindly provided relating to scenery, I think we may need some of these for the Arnhem game, if only for the look of the thing:

https://warbases.co.uk/?product=horsa-glider-15mm

[Stewart 46A]

I have a couple from armaments in miniature in the states. I think Mike H and Martin G have some as well

[Sean Clark]

I think I might get a couple of them.

[Smiley Miley 66]

I spoke to some of the guys at Entoyment yesterday. Like Les said doing the 3 sets of tables is too much for us. Hell's Highway, Nijmegan and Arnhem.
I suggest like Big Mikes Arndennes game we concentrate on doing Hell's Highway.
Let the other 2 tables be covered by 20mm boys. But what we can do is also run this over 2 days. Our table on the Saturday, with the Allies hopefully getting the result they need. As in getting off the end of the table at Grave and being able to enter Nijmegan.
Then let the 20mm boys do there thing on the Sunday. That way people from both scales can get  involved, hopefully giving each day that extra few bods they would rather have to run these games. Because not everyone can do Both days or the Saturday or the Sunday.
Yes we can have some gliders as Scenery pieces as the advance of the table would be going past some of the American landing sites, no doubt.
Any thoughts please ? After Xmas we will need to start committing our selves towards getting this game on the road for September.

[martin goddard]

Let me have a go at summarising here Miles.
If i have it wrong then just put me right Miles.

I have put down a bunch of assumptions. 
So that the true detail can replace those assumptions.
Thus giving something firm and concrete.

1.
Day 1=(Saturday) September 2019.
Games= associated with the link road (Hell's Highway) .
Scale=15mm
Rules=  PBI
Players =A team of 6 players.
Tables = 2
Organiser= Miles
Venue=Entoyment
Scenery= Roads, country side and minor bridges. Grave, Son

2.
Day 2 =(Sunday)
Games=doing the fighting at Arnhem town.
Scale= 20mm
Rules= Rapid fire
Players= A different team of 6 players.
Tables=2
Organiser= Miles
Venue=Entoyment
Scenery= Arnhem bridge, town and Osterbeck landing ground

As stated, there is plenty of time before September 75th anniversary.

[martin goddard]

I suggest this all begins in a new thread so that it is very clearly labelled or "organising the event". 
Then all the conversation is about what will happen. This present thread is 6 pages already with lots of peripheral and extraneous detail.
Would day 1 be called "15mm Arnhem" and day 2 "20mm Arnhem" or the other way around. The days cannot be split into market and garden because they overlap physically.

[martin goddard]

Think i should comment here!
I agree with the previous poster.

1. It would be nice for at least one end of the Arnhem bridge to be modelled as it is iconic.
2. Would like to see plenty of gliders here and there.
3. Cloths can be green. Nice and common

An impressive Arnhem game was put on at CRISIS Antwerp by a Dorset club. Plenty of internet pictures

[martin goddard]

I also agree with that man.

[martin goddard]

http://snv-ttm.blogspot.com/p/arnhem-crisis-2005.html

https://wargamesgazette.com/2018/11/04/crisis-2018-photoreport/

old pikeys

[Smiley Miley 66]

2 tables ! 8 Tables plus all the the set up tables. This game is going to be as big as the Ardennes game. From the Son bridge up to Grave Bridge. 30 plus miles in real life. 4 tables up and 2 tables wide. Maybe even 5 tables ? So it would include elements of Guards Armoured Division and flanking moves of 11th Armoured Divisions thrusts up towards Arnhem.
Then the fight into Nijmegan and Arnhem woukd be done on the Sunday mainly by 20 mm boys. Using Battlegroup rules and they would be burrowing the "Old Pikeys" Arnhem table set up.not sure about Nijmegan how that's going to be covered as yet. So Stuart's "River Crossing" could still be in. But these would have to be done the next day. Too much to cover in one day and too many people to cope with in one day. 

[martin goddard]

Good luck Miles. Sounds like you have it in hand. 
All i need to do is reserve a date on my calendar. 
Any ideas yet on a date??
"Colours" wargames show is on in September 2019 too. Cannot think of any other gaming events to be aware of. There might be some national commemoration event in September, which you might either want to coincide with or avoid.

[Leslie BT]

here's an interesting link to a large multiplayer wargame, I know its not our period but it does show the work for a large game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbh4G5RUqbY&feature=youtu.be

It will give Martin some work in getting it all videoed!!