ACW Epic?

[Sean Clark]

I wasn't talking about the figures in the box. I'm talking about the expansions for Zouaves and Cavalry.

Also, check how many spokes are on the wheels of the artillery.

[martin goddard]

I think Warlord wanted their range to be independent of all others.
Have they succeeded?
I don't know, because their target is not publicly known.
They may have achieved their target already, in terms of boxes sold.
Their customers are bending over backwards to make it work in terms of slicing, converting and painting.
That shows Warlord has a  very loyal following.  Good luck to them.


martin

[Leman (Andy)]

The spokes on the artillery carriage is only minor compared to the fact that every single gun barrel is an 1840s 12lb howitzer. Surely the 1859 Napoleon 12lb gun/howitzer would have been the glaringly obvious gun to do if only one was going to be produced. In the 1960s even Airfix got that right.

[pbeccas (Paul)]

Retail price in Australia = ouch.

[Colonel Kilgore]

Wow!

It feels like a drug dealers' business model: lure the punters in with cheap stuff initially, then bump up the prices...

Simon

[Moggy]

Sad but true. I wouldn't dream of paying the RRP for the Warlord products. Far too expensive for what they are but couldn't resist a bargain from your fav auction site. Not even considering buying cav, etc from them unless another bargain pops up.

[Leman (Andy)]

That pricing is utterly bizarre.

[Leslie BT]

Anyone found 3D printed figures for this scale?

[Moggy]

Finally had time to get a unit done.  I think they look quite good for speed painting.

They split up nicely with only minimal trimming.  I can get 10 bases per sprue and have plenty of 2 men bit left over for half bases/Skirmishers etc.  I know its twice as many figures per base as normal but the lines just seem to work for me. 

The AK47 bases is PP figs and just to show actual size.

What do you guys think.

Derek

[Big Mike]

They look good enough for a solid line of infantry on a wargames table and with the  speed of painting probably quite a good buy. Nice looking but not sure they would work do other basing types such as AK 47.
Mike

[Moggy]

That's the next project after AK47. 

Have a brigade box for each side plus a couple of sprue's (all courtesy of EBAY so a LOT cheaper than RRP) so that should give me about 5 Brigades per side plus plenty of guns. Have the rules on order now so will see if I even need Cavalry.

May need to get to work on my vertical gaming board so I can get a few solo games in first.

Derek

[Leslie BT]

They look fine Derek, do you find they are a bit small, therefore hard to see and paint.  Really difficult to texture the base between the two ranks.

[Sean Clark]

We are in sync then Derek

Ive got the rules and slowly soaking them up at the moment. Cavalry doesnt seem that important. A novelty brigade here or there seems the normal. The historical scenario battles require some cavalry units, more than might appear in a normal game.

Im looking forward to playing it.

Julian

Julian,

Miles typically organises a CWB day each year. We have great fun. The last one I attended I think had 5 tables. All of us were playing slightly different versions, misremembering rules and taking mechanisms from other Peter Pig rules and adding them in.

I suspect this is because we're all old and can't remember what we are doing.

CWB is a fantastic game giving a divisional (or 2) sized battle that plays out in a couple of hours so great for a club night. The historical scenarios are fun too, and include some that you won't find anywhere else. White Oak Road for instance, which was around a week before the surrender at Appomatox.

One of the best mechanics is the falter test, which also appears in Washingtons Army for the AWI.

Highly recommended. (But then I'm biased!)

[Moggy]

They look fine Derek, do you find they are a bit small, therefore hard to see and paint.  Really difficult to texture the base between the two ranks.

Not really. I painted the front rank on the base and the rear rank on painting sticks. Hardest part was trying to get the glue for the flock in between without getting too much on the feet/legs. I found the figures quite detailed and sharply defined making them easy to paint. With my unsteady hands and failing eyes only did belt/cross-belts and pouches in black (don't know if that is right and don't really care), a few random trousers in either light blue, mustard or light brown, same with hats. Little bit of flesh on face/hands, dark red/brown for the muskets and a line of black for the barrels.   

Its a shame though. I only remembered I hadn't given them a dunk in magic wash after I had flocked the bases. May give them a coat with a fat brush to raise a bit more detail.

One thing I did notice though some definatly carry the weapons with barrels forward and some carry them with barrels facing the back. I don't know if this is deliberate ior accidental or if this reflects reality or not. It6 does help to provide a little variety though.  Its a shame all the figure are in the same basic pose with a few minor variations on the legs but fascial variation is present. Also by cutting 4 figures into a smaller strip I can get a more random order for hats. As each original strip is 10 figs and 10 strips per sprue I can afford to be a little wasteful. Especially as the left-over figure I can use for other things such as half bases and skirmishers if needed.  May even do some bases with just sentries on camp guard etc.

[Leman (Andy)]

It is a peculiar size that Warlord have gone for, and, despite their assertion of designing it like that because it looks good to them, I am convinced that it was done purely for commercial reasons. Fit with other makes and ranges is a bit of a gamble. The best fit out there appears to be Kallistra, certainly with the infantry and artillery. The mounted cavalry though are much closer to 15mm and completely dwarf Kallistra cavalry. In fact I prefer the Kallistra mix throughout (although PP artillery pieces work very well - I now keep all my guns separate from the crews so that I can mix and match). As for the area between the front and rear rank, my advice is forget it. It's rarely evident when using the fiigures, just make sure the base area between the ranks is very dark, then shove a small amount of texture in from the sides. As stated, the area in the middle is barely noticeable and looks better than having flock go halfway up the figures. As a theatre of operations I prefer the Western theatre and my PP armies are designed as such with each regiment on a single base and using dice frames for relevant information. I use Warlord for two projects - Gettysburg and Antietam, and I am using The scenario books for those battles written by Scott Mingus.