Who needs Epic when you can have PP models.

[Leslie BT]

Great review of alternatives to Warlord Plastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX0y34fIUqk

Hope this boosts your sales Martin.

[Sean Clark]

Well done to Martin for having the prescience to ensure his figures fitted in with Warlord plastics!

I am incredibly biased, but I don't like these on bit. They are far too tightly packed for my liking and 10 wide figure bases is really off putting even if you can cut them down.

but then I'm not the target for these figures. I have a large ECW collection, of which I'm very fond. However, if these bring new people into the hobby and indeed it generates some sales for Martins excellent range, then that can only be a good thing.

Once my Mexcian forces and Roman faction/contingent/warband/gang are painted, I'll be buying Covenanananters.

[mellis1644]

Is the warlord epic basing system 60mm or 80mm wide ?

[Smiley Miley 66]

It's all good to know. I just got a free Sprue with my latest copy of Wargames Illustrated. So I will keep this one.
Miles

[Smoking gun]

Hi Miles,

You may find this blog article of use:

https://www.keepyourpowderdry.co.uk/2023/03/whats-that-bit-supposed-to-be-guide-to.html

There's a PP head swap too.

Best wishes,
Martin Buck

[Martin Smith]

Great review of alternatives to Warlord Plastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX0y34fIUqk

Hope this boosts your sales Martin.

A really useful link ✔️✔️. Thanks Leslie BT 👍🏼👍🏼

[Smiley Miley 66]

Thanks to Martin and Les. Both are very very useful.
Having bought a lot of PP figures already, but as yet to start on the "Army" these new figures could very well solve a "problem" ?
I ve always liked how Radar "bulked" out his forces !
Combining these plastic models with mainly PP and some Steel fist models.
One could make so very good looking forces. Including Cavalry.
Also with the new way Martin has represented Pikes using Plastic Broom Bristles !
As with PP games RoF being squared based. Enlarging the figures bases, isn't really an issue as long as you don't over crowd the square, and distract from what the bases represent?
Luckily Sean is coming down to us on Saturday so I am hoping to have a quick chat with him and the others at Entoyment about this subject.
I need to paint my Square Bashing British a bit quicker.
Looks like I am going to enjoy getting into the world of ECW in the months (hopefully)
Miles

[John Watson]

From my limited views of Steel Fist they are excellent figures but rather big. They were more in the range of 18-20mm similar to By Fire and Sword miniatures. I'd be surprised if they were a good fit with PP or Epic which are truer 15mm. But I could be wrong.
John

[Leman (Andy)]

How very odd. I have bought some Steel Fist figures and they are smaller than Peter Pig. Here is a comparison of an Epic ACW mounted officer, a Steel Fist 15mm cuirassier and an old style Peter Pig cuirassier.

[Smiley Miley 66]

The fella in the first video that Les put up said as much !
Maybe your thinking of Eureka ? John. I know they are bigger as I ve bought some of their ECW and Sudan type figures too.
Miles

[Smoking gun]

The author of the "Keep your powder dry" blog says Steel Fist miniatures are "true 15mm" there are some comparison photos. He also reports some casting quality issues.

Best wishes,
Martin Buck

[John Watson]

I got it wrong. It was not Steel Fist, but another company with Steel in the name (I think). They only did a ECW range a nd I think they went out of business. The Steel Fist look good.
John

[martin goddard]

Steelers wheel?
They can get stuck in the middle.

martin

[sukhe_bator (Neil)]

It might be time for me to get my DB+ Polish/Lithuanian army-in-the-making out of mothballs (Mostly Essex, Donnington and Matchlock)...

Neil

[Leman (Andy)]

Anyway, the good thing to know is that, should one be tempted by the Epic chaps, there appear to be even more options for introducing variety, via Peter Pig and Steel Fist, than there were with the ACW Epic (and the PP ACW artillery is well worth a look for that range).