Who needs Epic when you can have PP models.

[Colonel Kilgore]

I think people often forget the other costs (paints, basing, rules) when thinking about the initial purchase cost of the figures themselves.

Whether you buy cheap(er) plastic or metal, many of our other wargaming costs are less variable. So the incremental cost of metal over plastic is but a proportion of our overall gaming costs.

And then there's the preparation / painting / finishing time too - it takes just as long (longer, if the figures are less well defined?) to paint plastic as it does lead. Even the figure clean-up is no quicker (and arguably longer) with plastics. I do have a "bargain" force of WW2 plastic figures that I bought, cleaned up (painfully...), got to "know" through that process but then could not rustle up the motivation to paint. I may one day, or I may just buy the Peter Pig equivalents which also - as Sean alludes to - offer a wider range in terms both of poses and figure types.

We're probably drifting off the original topic here, but there are my ten cents' worth.

Simon

[sukhe_bator (Neil)]

I hear you, Simon
A few years back I challenged myself to double my 25mm orc horde. I bought 3 bumper sets of EM4 orcs in just 3 poses. A year later and bucket loads of brass rod, Milliput, scraps culled from other figures and lots of elastoplast - I have a second army of approx. 200 figures... I still reckon at a fraction of the cost of the equivalent plastics or metals. - but boy it was an epic ride I would not repeat!

[Colonel Kilgore]

That's a lot of work Neil, and your results look great.

I also painted up a few EM4 dwarves and orcs some years ago. But not nearly so many and I didn't do any converting. They were very good value and easy to do a basic paint job on.

Another reason I like Peter Pig in 15mm, though - such a variety of poses that I usually don't feel the need to convert stuff. Thus saving time, money and cut fingers 

Simon

[sukhe_bator (Neil)]

Amen to that!

Neil

[Sean Clark]

The most I've done is do a few head swaps. It's amazing the difference a new head makes.

[Leman (Andy)]

I've even gone so far as to put a few ECW heads on ACW figures for even more variety.