Sample navies

[Throner]

I have yet to find it, but if it is listed elsewhere i apologise.

I would love to have the data for all the ships for sale listed on Peter Pigs web site. if anyone has any please let me know

I do have a copy of all ships listed in the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Navies in the War of Rebellion,  although some data is real basic  ie:  side wheel steamer 410 tons

Thanks

[martin goddard]

No worries T.

I think they are all in the HI rulebook.
If you do not have the  HI rule book then  you are really stuck with no way out.
Any PP ships that are not in it just let me know and I will sort it out.

martin

[Throner]

of course I have and love the rulebook, , in fact i have only recently ordered the reb sample fleet off page 11 ( except Albermarle  which I have )

I know a lot of models can pass as several named vessels..

thanks for the reply Martin I will get back to you :-D

[Throner]

The ship in question is the george page , captured by the rebs,  was a side wheel steamer  410 tons, 2 guns ( unknown type ). i have a resin model of that brought a while ago from a firm no longer trading

any help on stats

I would assume shes wooden with light guns ( forward maybe ) shallow  and maybe fast is so working on the points ...
410 ton  divide by 80 then plus 12 = 17.1  hit point  17
point cost
wooden 6 x 17 =102
1 fore 1 aft light pivot guns = + 60    =102 + 60 = 162
shallow + 60    ..   = 162 + 60 =222     

I could maybe add fast ship, of +120  giving total point of 222 + 120 = 342

I would welcome any thoughts

thanks in advance

Brian

[Throner]

I am sure many of you already know this but any newbie like myself may find it of use

free to download at the library of congress

https://www.loc.gov/item/06035188/


Brian

[martin goddard]

Brian that sounds all good.
Because players pay points for each aspect then most ships should seem fair.
The problems will arise where players want a ship such as a ram and it was not.

There were not may ships that defy some basic principles.

Big ships tended to mount bigger and better guns.
Small wooden ships tended to have lighter guns.
Ram ships were designed as such.
Rifled guns had no greater effect than smoothbores.


If players build plausible and authentic fleets they will probably have good games.
Players who try to make "super ships" will spoil games.

martin

[Throner]

totally agree, as you can see the George Page is not a super ship  :-D .  and i think i'll lose the Fast 120 points,  as this will make a good ship for topping up points when im at 5800   or so

[Throner]

rebs 

large fort
Virginia
macon
Gen Bragg
Drewry
little rebel 
sumter

Game went really well Virginia held water between islands, and i kept other ships at end of table, looked impassable,  until Crit hit on Virginia =  Dean rolled double 6..........  

couple of weeks later i tried playing yankee

large fort
Hartford
Miami
Com Morris
Osage
Signal
Gen Sedgwick

again islands/ sand bars  upstream
large fort held well  game ended in points draw

seems a large fort upstream along with islands / sand bars makes it really tough to crack...
to be honest thats why i have ordered a med fort ( and upgraded ships of course ) to see  how it effects the outcome