Sample navies

[martin goddard]

As we are chatting about playing some HI.
The next thing we need to  remember

May I ask members here to  put up some or one sample navy so that players have some ideas.
This will allow players who have not played before or do not own a set of rules, to have some instant choices.

Words.
Casemate= he ship consists of a big rectangular armoured box within which the guns lie.
Monitor= The guns are in an armoured turret.
Tin clad= A wooden ship with some rubbish Timber or cotton bale protection has been added.
Fort = a collection of guns within a dirt or stone defence  rectangle. It cannot move (unless it is magic fort  = sorry I meant it to be over there , having seen your fleet dispositions)
Tender= small wooden ship that hangs around an ironclad to help out.

Here are two from the rulebook

1. Confederate "big hitter" navy

CSS Virginia (2145) big casemate
CSS Albermarle ( 920) small casemate
CSS General Bragg (685) wooden
CSS Governor Moore (883) tin clad
CSS General Sumter  454
CSS Planter( 371) Wooden
Medium fort (550) All navies must have a fort.
6008.
Deduct 1 hit point from something wooden = -6
6002  TOTAL  Close enough.

2. Union navy "High tech".

USS passaic (1300) monitor
USS Miami (896) wooden
USS Fuschia (344) tender
USS Blackhawk (902) big wooden
USS Signal (630) wooden
USS Cairo (1330) casemate
Medium fort (550)
Total 5952

The compulsory 6 ships and fort are for game balance and playability.

More commercial translation=In the HI collectible universe there are 6 factions per side in your warband. Each faction raft has an awesome collectible (including rare cards)  stats card.


martin

[Sean Clark]

I only need to collect a few more of the special ships with 'rare' cards and my geek credentials will be complete. I told my 12 year old daughter She seemed to think it 'not cool' and 'lame'. I think in kids language that means it's good, right?

[martin goddard]

Yes Sean it's bad.


martin

[John Watson]

Martin, your Confederate fleet only has 5 ships.
John

[martin goddard]

Good spot John.
Anything past 4 is just "many'? 
I have corrected it now.


martin

[Smiley Miley 66]

Could I suggest you swap CSS Planter for CSS Drewery as this would act as a Tender for Virginia? Which was mainly CSS Teaser but the Drewery is close enough ! As the CSS Planter is classed more as a wooden Gunboat. One of the good thing about PP ships, Martin put out these smaller ships that are very "Universal" and can be used to represent a lot of "smaller" vessels without havin to break the bank in buying them; they can represent both sides without to much fuss !
USS Signal is a Tin Clad as well.
General Bragg can be classed as a Tinclad (cottonclad)with the Cotton Bales and some "Armour" stuffed into some parts of the ship ? This ship can be used by the Union in later battles as well, as she was Captured.
Miles

[martin goddard]

Thanks Miles.
Can you add some sample navies so that  folk have some idea choices.
If you want to make modified versions of my suggestion then that is fine too.

martin

[Sean Clark]

I'll dig my book out and put up a couple of fleets too later today.

[Forst22]

Is this spreadsheet/fleet calculator any use?

It only has the ships I have and could be tarted up!

[martin goddard]

Certainly Graham.
Jolly useful.

Sean, thanks  that is exactly what is needed.
I will get another one done tonight.


martin

[martin goddard]

Rebel Ironclad Navy of the river

CSS Selma.  Tinclad  864
CSS Gen Sumter.  Wooden   454
CSS Arkansas. Ironclad  1450
CSS Nashville.  Ironclad 1095
CSS Planter. Wooden 371
CSS Tucaloosa  Ironclad 1240
Medium fort 550
TOTAL  6024


martin

[martin goddard]

Union Fleet
4 of  Sassacus . Wooden= 892 x 4= (i.e. Agawam, Eutaw, Chicopee,Sassacus)
USS Canonicus  Monitor  = 1550
USS Signal. Wooden  630
Small fort 300
Total = 6048

Note. Any small differences from 6000 in these navies can be regulated by reducing hit points.


martin

[martin goddard]

Bone breakers
Confederates

CSS Manassas Ironclad   870
CSS Tennessee Ironclad  1360
CSS Palmetto state Ironclad. 1415
CSS Drewry Wood.  434
CSS Albermarle  Ironclad. 920
CSS Drewry Wood.  434
Medium fort  550

Total 5983 points




martin

[Sean Clark]

Martin,

shouldn't these fleets include a fort within the 6,000pts?

[Sean Clark]

A Union and a Confederate fleet for the adventurous!

Union

Large Fort 1000
USS Casco 1250
USS Cannonicus 1550
USS Monitor 1345
Chattanooga 282
General Sedgewick 404
Mortar Schooner 170

3 turreted 'Monitor' class ships, 2 wooden ships and a mortar schooner! This actually comes in at 6,001 points but I won't tell if you don't.

Confederate

Small Fort 280
Tennessee 1360
Arkansas 1450
Colonel Lovell 867
Selma 864
Patrick Henry 908
AD Vance 204

This leaves 67 points left over, but gives the Rebel player a heck of a lot of guns which they often lack. You may be able to spend the points more efficiently, but I was aiming for maximum gunnage