Retiring from assault

[Forst22]

Rereading the rules has left me in doubt over what happens to the attacker if the defender retire from assault voluntarily?

Ie does the attacker follow-up, and occupy the square?

Do the additional casualties for target/assualter apply based on win/loose?

Thoughts?

[SimonC]

Ie does the attacker follow-up, and occupy the square?

Yes - they are also awarded a 'winning the fight marker'
The troops that voluntarily retire before the assault take 'some' (depending on type) hits (that they can save)

Do the additional casualties for target/assualter apply based on win/loose?

I'm not sure what this means. The target takes hits, but no the assaulter? 

thanks
Simon

[Forst22]

That's what I thought, ie followup.

The issue I had doubt on was how far the sequences is treated as a fight!

It is possible for the retreated to have zero casualties, so it's a draw! In which case assualter takes 3 hits if it follows full outcomes sequence. Possible if thought of as a fighting withdraw!

That also leaves who gets or looses winning the fight markers. Ie does a  target which retired but had a winning the fight marker loose it. If it draws does target getone etc

[John Watson]

My understanding is that if you withdraw you automatically lose the fight. So the attacker gets winning the fight marker regardless of what follows.
John

[Sean Clark]

My understanding too. They've hurredly retreated in the face of the enemy, and maybe lose casualties in doing so. The morale of the assaulter is up because they've chased the enemy away hence the winning the fight marker.

[martin goddard]

I agree with Sean and John.

They see an enemy coming at them.
The enemy are coming forward in order to seize the ground and get a fight.
The targets weigh up their chances and decide to fall back.
By falling back they allow the enemy to come forward.
Falling back in response to being attacked leads to consequent losses.
The target has already decided to fall back before suffering any consequences. The die is cast.


martin

[Colonel Kilgore]

Indeed - it's tough to claim any kind of win by running away!

Simon

[Leman (Andy)]

Also agree as that's how I play it, but common sense would also seem to apply a loss for the retreater (abandoning a position) and a win for the assaulter who takes the ground.