Query about livery coats

Started by sukhe_bator (Neil), February 14, 2022, 12:14:14 PM

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sukhe_bator (Neil)

Might I expect French Compagnies D'Ordonnance to follow the same practice as the Burgundians adopted in relation to their heraldry with livery coats depicting the heraldic colours and device of where they come from?
I'm considering fielding Compagnies from Rouen, Caen and Evreux and have tracked down plausible historic civic/district heraldry I could use as colour choices.
I have also seen depictions of helmet sashes and plumes in those colours as distinctions used in combination with the ubiquitous French uniform of 'red with white cross tabard/coat'.
Does anyone know which might have been preferred?

martin goddard

Gosh Neil.
I have no idea about that one.
Simon (web chief) is into renaissance at the moment. Maybe he can steer???


martin ???

sukhe_bator (Neil)

Still contemporary with the Wars of the Roses period...
There was also an interesting bust up between separatist Normandy and an increasingly centralised France with the accession of Louis XI. In 1465 there was an open rebellion of the nobles which was part of the League of the Public Weal. It involved much of Normandy and Brittany until it was taken by forces from the Cotentin in 1466.

John Watson

Regarding your French livery coat query you might want to make enquiries with the Lance and Longbow Society. The only advice I can give on the depictions you mentioned is to treat them with suspicion if they are not contemporary.
John

sukhe_bator (Neil)

Thanks John,
I'll check the L&LBSoc out for advice.
The depictions I've seen are colour reconstructions a la Angus McBride and chums
I was leaning towards having the mounted MAA in fuller livery (where applicable) given he's wearing plate, and the others in the French 'uniform' of Gules a cross argent (as seen in most MS illustrations) with sashes etc in different town colours.