Pink Pig Award

[martin goddard]

A "Pink Pig" award for painting Sean?

martin

[Sean Clark]

Thats a great idea.

Could we run a forum painting competition called the Pink Pig?

1. Pre 1900 single figure
2. Pre 1900 unit/ship
3. Post 1900 single figure
4. Post 1900 unit/vehicle
5. Open category for a diorama .

All Peter Pig figures.

Thoughts?

[Smoking gun]

Sean,
The painting competition is a good idea, the Pendraken forum do one every year. The other thing forums do are group builds over a month or so where participants build a model or figures to fit a particular theme, e.g. terrain, the more open a theme the better.

Gets my support.

Best wishes,
Martin Buck

[Sean Clark]

Group builds sound an interesting idea. I remember seeing this on a forum before now but can't remember which one.

Pendraken seem to do quite well with theirs. Surely the promise of winning a Pink Pig badge is enough to spur group members towards greatness.

[martin goddard]

A great idea Sean
However we do have some painters that are so good they are even better than me; hard to believe i know.

Let me throw some thinking in and see if we can massage that into something.

1. An award that is easy to compete in so that we get lots of entries. Easy  =many have a chance.
2. A set of criteria that includes painting but not only that.
3. Criteria that are relevant to playing RFCM games.
4. Maybe have votes/points from many that go into a central score.   Survey monkey?

Here is a list of ideas and constructs.

1. There should be  a PP prize and the winner's piece should be featured on the PP website and other gaming forums.
2. The prize would be a unit rather than money so that the cost is low for martin.

Criteria
a. The unit(12+ figures) or model(3+ models) must have fought in at least two games using RFCM rules. The more games played the higher the pointage. Maybe 2-5 6-20 and 20+. Award 1,2,3 points
b. The paint job must be nice. Award  3,4,5 points
c. There must be an account of the way they have fought in battles. Award 1,2,3 points
d. The physical age of the unit. 1-2 years, 3-6 years, 7 years plus. Award 2,3,4 points
e. The basing in terms of quality and cohesion with the other bases. Award 1,2 points.
f. Travel. Where has the unit travelled to. Award 0=nowhere, 1= fought only 2other opponents, 3= fought outside the county. 4=fought abroad (another country).
g. Uniform accuracy. Award 1 or 2.

This would give a chance for a unit to win and still not look the best but be the best.
Scores can vary from 11 to 22.

I suggest that any entered unit must be mainly (75%) PP. Really do not think we want yet another lovely unit of 28mm Winged hussars.

This kept me up all night, but might be the way to get us all involved??
The above would be more interactive rather than impressive.
The winning unit/model would be relevant and applicable to the hobby.
The award would need to say more than "best  painted" to be accurate. Possibly "A unit for all seasons"  The "Thomas More Award".

I did not originate this topic but do like to interfere (sorry).


martin

[martin goddard]

Good ideas martin.
Maybe this needs to be moved to a new topic as "Onandaga" might mislead some??

Mr X (that will hide my identity)

[Colonel Kilgore]

I will see what I can do to un-hijack this thread,  then 

Simon

[Colonel Kilgore]

I think that move worked, without too many ironclads getting sunk?

Simon

[Smoking gun]

Some forums award "medals" or "badges" to participates to mark that have completed an entry, similar to the "supporters" badge, for painting competitions or group builds.
It's something our hard working admin team would have to look into, (sorry  )  but I believe it is an add on to forum software.

Best wishes,
Martin Buck

[Sean Clark]

A very good idea Martin. We'll done.

I will also sponsor the prizes as part of the God's Own Scale Podcast. More news on this later. There are ongoing negotiations at a very high and very senior level. They are entering a delicate stage. Someone has brought in croissants when we order pain au chocolate. Wish me luck.

[Sean Clark]

Martin B's idea is splendid. A special forum badge is something to aspire to.

[Moggy]

Criteria
a. The unit(12+ figures) or model(3+ models) must have fought in at least two games using RFCM rules. The more games played the higher the pointage. Maybe 2-5 6-20 and 20+. Award 1,2,3 points       How would this be ajudicted

c. There must be an account of the way they have fought in battles. Award 1,2,3 points    Not sure on this one 
d. The physical age of the unit. 1-2 years, 3-6 years, 7 years plus. Award 2,3,4 points    How would this be ajudicted

f. Travel. Where has the unit travelled to. Award 0=nowhere, 1= fought only 2other opponents, 3= fought outside the county. 4=fought abroad (another country).    How would this be ajudicted



Sorry Martin, Dont want to appear negative here but I think the criteria above are over complicated and favour people who are able to play frequently. Not all people are able to travel to play others regularly or do only games played at PP meets counted. Not everyone is able to play any day of the week and have a ready supply of opponents available at the drop of a hat. In my case I would have 1 chance per fortnight to game assuming I have an opponent who is available within my club. How does that make a level playing field with someone who has a close group that can play every day at home. I feel this could be quite devisive and unbalanced. This also penalises anyone whose joy is in the painting and modeling but not necessarily the gaming.


Also as I have indicated above fairly controlling these points would be hard to do relying on the honesty of the individuals. I am NOT impugning any-ones integrity here so please no-one take it the wrong way.

I do agree with the criteria to the degree of PP figures present. In fact I would say that as it is for the PP website it should be 100%. I accept most of my Armies would then not be able to enter as I do like to mix figures from different manufacturers but can accept that point happily.


CHeers


Derek

[martin goddard]

Thanks Derek

Good feedback.



martin

[pbeccas (Paul)]

Great idea to have a yearly paint off, I'll enter.  You could publish the entries & winner in the Mill.

You could even have a PP conversion category.  I've seen some great head swap figures posted on here.

[Sean Clark]

I love a good KISS.

Keep It Simple Silly.

I think judges should be the Admin and Moderators here plus Martin G and Julie. She is a very good miniature painter.

I don't think a financial award is necessary. The qudos and recognition of peers plus a big picture spread in the Mill will surely be enough to get people in their thousands entering.

The Pink Piggies has a certain gravitas to it.