Warlord Resin

[pbeccas (Paul)]

I'm happy to pay for metal.  Even if it's double the current price.  It gives me happy sparks of joy to paint it.

[martin goddard]

....and makes martin a wealthy man (?)

martin

[Leslie BT]

So we started with warlord resin and have come back to metal, is this the groups consensus that metal is still best?

[Nick]

So we started with warlord resin and have come back to metal, is this the groups consensus that metal is still best?

It is for me.

Nick

[Colonel Kilgore]

So we started with warlord resin and have come back to metal, is this the groups consensus that metal is still best?

For figures (vehicles are a bit more nuanced, for me), I can't see anything ever beating metal in the foreseeable future.

Simon

[Spartacus]

For me too--Unless carts or bulky items.

Terry

[John Watson]

Hard plastic, resin or metal for me as long as it is properly sculpted and cast, and that is the issue!
John

[pbeccas (Paul)]

 Metal rocks. 

[martin goddard]

Obviously each to their own.
Metal has several major advantages.
1. Cheaper mould making makes short run items possible.  e.g ECW character with dog and peachier.
2. Smaller packs allow players more chance of getting exactly what they want. e.g No 4 extra George Washington on a horse models.
3. Easy to convert using present technology  i.e putty and drilling
4. Animation possible with pliers, file and putty.
5. Massive width of metal ranges allows  very idiosyncratic armies   e.g 200+ poses of WW2 Germans in the PP ranges.
6. Unlikely to be suddenly withdrawn as ranges get sold on or the maker will aways bash out a few more packs   e.g Big manufacturers can withdraw packs from sale with no customer ability to buy "just a few more".
7. There must be a 7?


martin

martin

[Leman (Andy)]

I went inro Groningen Games Workshop last week to get a pin vise, only to be told that they no longer sell them as all their figures are now plastic. Likewise Greenstuff is no longer sold by them, or tools for sculpting. Fortunately there is an even bigger hobby shop which still sells such things, and more than one brand of paint.

[madaxeman]

Without wishing to comment on the whole price/quality thing I would point out that the prices Tim has quoted as most/least expensive are incorrect. My recent internet searches has shown that Eureka's AB range come out at 65p per figure and Warrior Miniatures are 21p a figure. Both are metal. 120 AB figures = £78. 120 Warrior = £25.20. Which figures you prefer is, of course, personal choice and there are some manufacturers and some ranges that I wouldn't use even if they were free.
John

I'd forgotten AB - but then again, they are a real outlier in price, and for us they only have limited 'ancients' ranges. Technically the most expensive figures are actually Lurkio's 4-packs. They normally sell in bigger packs, but do have some 4-packs available which come in at 75p each... even more amazing when you think the same figures in resin are 31p! 

Warrior - yeah - at one time they were Gallia I think, and were local to where I grew up. That's a cheap price for some long in the tooth models!

[GrahamC]

Siocast give me a regular ' why aren't you buying our product' .? Whilst they promote that the machine the sell does everything - makes the mould and cast very cheap figures you are looking at around €30000 to set up way out of my price range for a small businesss
Graham

[pbeccas (Paul)]

30k?  For a machine that produces cheap rubbish figures.  Wow.

[Smiley Miley 66]

 As John says, it's not the material they are made in, it's the quality of the Sculptures that count. Talking about Resin/Plastic/Metal. Plastic is the easiest to convert, ply and change around so when they started bring out mainly vehicles in plastics only I was overjoyed, as it makes my life a lot easier. To be honest I will "convert" whatever material the model is made from big or small to make whatever I have to make what model I need to make.
The main things I always look at is the quality of the sculptures, and the sizes of the models. When all these firms bring out a 1/100th scale or 15mm model and it's not consistent with another manufacturer then that's what is the most annoying.
I will swap over components from one company to another to make the correct version of a vehicle if that's what it takes to make a correct vehicle. When it comes to figures PP Heads are great, as this allows so many opportunities to convert figures from whatever range or materials ? As long as the sizes are proportional.
If you saw the DDay collection from 2019, especially the Churchill "Funnies" they were a complete mix n match.
Miles

[Stewart 46A]

Hi Miles,
Your D-Day tank conversions are great, you need to post some pictures

Stewart