Warlord Resin

[pbeccas (Paul)]

https://youtu.be/QpzmSd9k9Gs

Here's an honest vid review of the new "Warlord Resin".  It looks like WG are casting a lot of their metal range in this new flexible resin stuff.

My honest opinion is, I'm not buyImg it.

How many times have we seen this stuff fail now. Games Workshop, Battlefront, Plastic Soldier Company.  Now Warlord.  And they want to charge more for it.

[Colonel Kilgore]

Wow - that's pretty damning.

Poorly conceived / sculpted / mastered / moulded. The "why I slightly dislike" bit of the title is something of an understatement!

Stick with metal - it's a safer bet 

Simon

[martin goddard]

There are a few companies moving in to using plastic/resin.
There might be some very good reasons.
Maybe it is cheaper? Maybe lighter to post?

Possibly the material of the future? I know very little about it and am not intending to at this point.


martin

[Leslie BT]

Yep metal for the figures and resin for the blocky things, armoured cars, scenery, buildings and some sprinkles.

Could not decide what the video was trying to do, soften the blow for a price rise or try to drum up support.

Did not buy the line of not needing to wash or prime the plastic as that is what they are!

[SimonC]

I'm not really sure why he doesn't take price into consideration. Resin for .90 per figure compared to ~£2 for a 28mm metal figure.  You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work it out.  All these cheap resin plastics are a way to get cheap figures quickly to market.

[Mike6t3]

I have several Reaper Bones miniatures and despite my initial scepticism I'm rather impressed with the stuff. Paint does not flake off despite bending and twisting (I just had to try..).
Are Warlord etc using a different resin ?
However I still prefer metal for 15mm figs and smaller.

Mike

[John Watson]

Plastic Soldier Company have gone into the bendy plasticky resin stuff. First range was Lurkio ancients (Late Roman, Hun, Goth, Sassanid). The Goths are ok for the price which is over a third less than the metal equivalent. The Late Romans though seem to be covered in flash. They see to paint up as well as metal and require no undercoat.
Second range is Corvus Belli Early Imperial Romans and Gauls. I haven't seen these yet but the old metal figures (which are hard to come by) were superb. It is nice that these figures are easily available again.
The third range are apparently going to be Xyston ancients. I am guessing that they will be classical Greek or Punic Wars.
I don't think that pike armed figures will feature much as the pikes might be too bendy. However I am concerned that PSC are just copying (under licence) other ranges which are sculted for metal not resin. I would like to see them do their own figures a la WW2 etc.
John

[Stewart 46A]

I do have a few thousand of the first edition Lord of the Ring figures for GW , most are plastic.
They seem to take paint well and with normal gameing have worn very well without chips and broken figures .
But I do. Prefer metal for 15mm.


Stewart

[martin goddard]

Choice is always a good thing.

Pitching at a price is a major consideration for manufacturers.
Often it is the price rather than the value.
By this I mean that £15 for many people is not a lot of money. Thus, if you can get only 4 figures for that price and it completes a force then all is good.
If you get 300 figures for £160 that may be very good value. However, the £160 is the sticking point rather than the value.

As an intuitive (ie not based on science) number i would sell wargame items in lots/boxes of £24 if I were selling bigger figures et al. Enough to tempt players at a price point they can afford without specific budgeting. Also £24 is enough to make the endeavour worthwhile.

As an aside; I notice quite a lot of  "you need this" selling going on for larger cost items.
This might be a really cheap airline ticket but lots of additions if you want a specific seat, food etc...
Sofa shops that want you to add special treatments  and feet. Plus a £70 delivery fee.
On ebay I often see an interesting item with a big lump of postage superimposed.
In my young days, cars were often priced as "ex works".


martin

[Leslie BT]

All your Peter Pig products are ex works.

[Mike6t3]

Having now watched the article it doesn't look like the same material as Reaper Bones which are nice sculpts and don't break.
These Warlord models seem to be a different material and the end result looks like one of those rough 3d printed models.
I don't think metal figures are under serious threat just yet.

Mike

[SimonC]

If you want to see what the technology behind this -

https://www.siocast.com

Its what PSC use, and looks like Warlord too. As with both these things its QA. The first casts I saw using this method were very good. But going into production mode has seen it slipping

thanks
Simon

[martin goddard]

It does look very interesting.
Spanish I think.

They do not seem keen to publicise the price of machinery and pieces though.
At the moment I will stick to staying behind the "cutting edge" and see how it develops. No rush.


martin

[alang]

I saw some of the pre release PSC figures at MOAB last year.  Not impressed. By the time they were handed around the room (about 20 gamers ) a few of the heads had already broken off. Alan

[John Watson]

Perhaps they want you buy in person at their Barcelona offices. That way they might hope to sell you more. My wife has always wanted to go to  Barca for a holiday so perhaps I could combine the two.
John