POE facts of life

[Smiley Miley 66]

It is earlier in the war.. so you never know lol

[martin goddard]

Do bring them along if you can Mies. We can have a gossip about ships.

[Lluis of Minairons]

Some clever ideas there, Miles... I'll have to give a try to some, soon

Thanks for sharing! In exchange, another possibly useful idea: have you ever tried using plasticard for making sails?
One can bend the plastic sail easily with a little heat --using a lighter, for instance.
Such is the method I've recently used for making an all-lateen sailed ship for my own collection --one called "sagetia", looking like a "xebec" at a first sight.
(Here you have it, at an early painting stage still)



As I'm anything but good at handling green stuff, I'm thinking of using hand made plastic parts more often, from now on.

[Stewart 46A]

Looks very good Lluís, you are a master of invention

[Duncan]

I have muse.f used cardboard cut to shape for sails, but have then covered this in a thin layer of green stuff to give it some texture so that it is not too smooth looking.

[Smiley Miley 66]

Looking very good there Luis. Trust me the more times you make the sails in green stuff the easier it becomes.
Now i ve made a few. Painting is the next job....

[Smiley Miley 66]

I will bring my 6 ships now with me on Sunday. As i need some advise /opinions ?
Before i go too far down the painted way.

[Leslie BT]

Are you adding the rowing boat behind the main ship?

[Smiley Miley 66]

Here are my 5 pirate ships and a Royal Navy sloop. So far.  I ve nearly finished the modelling side of things, i have Brassed Etched Ratlines to put on but this will be done a bit later down the line.  The Open gun ports are the ones PP do with there gun ranges. I put some on to give the side of the ships suggestions of the armaments stored within the ships ?
I need some advise about the basing of these ships ? How are others basing theres?
  I also got the Revell Spainish Galleon with the Oars ! Does anyone know how the oars were stored when in sailing mode ? Were the Oars visable ? Or were they pulled in ?
Any suggestions and help on this would be of help ?

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[Colonel Kilgore]

Those are looking really excellent Miles!

[martin goddard]

The oars were used in battle to get in close. Having said that, there are reasons not to use oars.

Many seas are too rough for oars. Battles were often fought in poorer weather.
Takes a lot of men to row the oars.
Corsairs might often have slave oarsmen, but sea going ships could not maintain  large slave crews for long.
Rowing is very hard work indeed and puts men in the wrong place for fighting.
A moderate breeze coud out perform a row ship. An absence of wind was ideal for  oars. I believe Kidd's adventure galley was just that.

[Smiley Miley 66]

That's why I asked the question, as the model has the oars deployed with the sails blowing.
So that's why I asked the question What does it look like with the oars stored away ?
Were they retracted fully in ? Or stored otherwise? It will be a while before I will get to make it.

[martin goddard]

A good question it was too Miles. Others are probably interested too.  The oars were stored internally. Therefore they are out of sight. I would assume that the holes had bungs in them so that water cannot get in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_Galley#/media/File:The_Charles_Galley-Willem_van_de_Velde_the_Younger-2.jpg

This is the "Charles galley", Very similar. You can see the ports for the oars.

In real ife it would not be normal to have the sails billowing and the oars out. Unless the Captain wanted to keep a bad crew busy and tired. A bit like those models which have the sails blowing one way and the flags the other. Leads me onto those model box arts which have the vehicle commander pointing whilst no crew can see him.

[Smiley Miley 66]

Ahh but it looks good !!!!

[Smiley Miley 66]

I ve started painting my Pirate ships.
Here is the Black Pearl.
With some Ratlines fitted