Enthused by todays activities and seeing Rich and Stewarts Scottish armies today, I think a Covenanter army might go on my list to Santa.
Looking at the list in the book, I cant work out what Scottish Lancers do. They count as charger cavalry which is fine. But in the army list, it says you can havr 0-4 units of Lancers, some pistolers, and the rest must be charger cavalry.
If they count as charger cavalry anyway, why is there a separate reference to them? What am i missing?
I don't know Sean, but they do loot baggage well.
John
Maybe thats it John :)
I love Philip Haytyhornthwaite's illustration of a Scottish lancer mounted on a horse of very few hands.
Scottish Lancers are something a bit different to buy and we all love that! They wouldn't really be much good against proper cavalry on big horses but were good at scouting, harassing and, that old Scottish favourite, looting from the English!
I'll make a proposal that Scottish Lancers have the aggressive characteristic similar to charger cavalry as they do currently, but only keep it for one charge, after which it is automatically removed rather than rolling for it.
This would both represent the fact their small ponies would be good for one good charge and the fact that the lances most likely weren't much use either so they have to resort to their swords.
Not sure whether this ought to be reflected with a minor points reduction?
Any thoughts, comments, ideas or suggestions?
Ben is interested in building a ECW Scots army, he wants highlanders units. Not knowing much on this range what would he need to build a reasonable army?
D&B
A lot of Montrose's army and the most effective part were in fact Irish and Martin had included some nice figures in the range. The highlanders really add bulk and a bit of colour though! Montrose's army also has some lovely flags!
Thanks Richard, how many units would Ben need?
D&B
The covenanter army is more mainstream.
The Montrose army is pretty poor by most standards in ROF.
The Covenanter army is fine in ROF but Montrose army would be hard work to win with I reckon.
Although he is the representative of the Royalist cause in Scotland.
You need a pot of "hodden grey" paint for your Scots.
I like that colour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodden
martin :)
Dave,
The Covenanter Army I fielded on Saturday morning was: 9 Foote Regiments Plus A unit of Highlanders; 2 Dragoon units; 3 Scottish Lancer units and 3 Pistoler cavalry units; 4 light field guns and 1 Medium gun.
Richard
I'm pretty sure Aberdeen (the man) had Highlanders in his Covenanter command.
Quote from: Richardwills on August 15, 2022, 10:42:32 AM
Dave,
The Covenanter Army I fielded on Saturday morning was: 9 Foote Regiments Plus A unit of Highlanders; 2 Dragoon units; 3 Scottish Lancer units and 3 Pistoler cavalry units; 4 light field guns and 1 Medium gun.
Richard
And how did it get on, Richard?
Simon
Thanks Richard, he can plan from that.
D&B
And for more inspiration, here's a fine blog (linked from a post today on TMP) by a former member of this Forum - featuring the army of Montrose:
https://www.keepyourpowderdry.co.uk/2022/08/montroses-army.html
Simon
Thanks Simon, have read radars blog previously, thought it was very good. I just wanted to work out the number of figures/types Ben would need. His birthday is in Sept, so was planning to order for a Colours pick up, then he can work on it over the winter. He is away for Colours digging ditches in Yorkshire - he was not impressed when his field trip was announced.
D&B
Simon,
I came second! In retrospect, I would sacrifice some guns and lower the quality of some of my infantry to allow for a couple more conscript Foote regiments to bulk out the Army.
Richard
Second's good, Richard - better than coming last ;D
I've managed to largely resist RoF to date (I don't need another project right now...), but have played both WRG and DBR - your force did sound like it was well endowed with guns!
Simon
Nice figure, Julian!
Simon,
Have you never plkayed Regiment of Foote? One game and you're hooked!
I think the first time I probably met you was when you were helping out on the PP stand at a show, and even then you were trying to tempt me over to the dark side, Sean :D
Simon
Sounds familiar :)
Just reading back through this prompted by the Highlander query, can anyone answer the Scottish Lancer question please?
If you look at the Scots Covenanter list (page 28) you will see that they can field a maximum of 10 cavalry units. Up to 4 can be lancers and 1 - 3 must be pistolers. If you are going for the maximum then you must have at least 3 non-lancer chargers. Of course you do not need to field any lancers and you are obliged to field at least 1 pistoler. Let's say you have opted for 6 cavalry. You have decided to field 2 lancer and 2 pistoler units. then according to the list your final 2 units must be non-lancer chargers. Hope this clears it up Sean.
Andy is right. Sorry Sean I missed the original question :-[
Scots lancers are identical to chargers in every way. The notes are included for players to include the figures in their armies. Nice and simple.
martin :)
Understood, thank you.