Top 5 Pet Hates

[Leman (Andy)]

Oh dear me. I do know exactly what you mean, especially two and four. There are a couple of individuals I know who fit that mould exactly. I haven't really come across the other three, and I'm happy to say the winning gloater is something I've never experienced (and, believe you me, I lose more often than win).

[myrm]

My #1 - People who roll dice through the active areas of the table rather than to one side.

[Leman (Andy)]

Especially when they didn't spend hours painting those figures you're letting them play with.

[peterctid]

My #1 hate are wargamers who think that wargames are an accurate representation of warfare.

Game first....

[Sean Clark]

My #1 hate are wargamers who think that wargames are an accurate representation of warfare.

Game first....

This is my own gaming mantra. I want a game to look nice, with plausible rules, played with good friends that is over in around 2 hours. But I can do without the 'simulation'.

[Leman (Andy)]

One assumes that if the rules are any good it will bear some resemblance to what went on in history. Unless of course it's one of those faeries and robots games with zombie Nazis, in which case.............

[pbeccas (Paul)]

I have one pet hate.  Miniature rule writers who claim their rules are the most realistic rules ever written.  And 13 out of 10 combat veterans agree.

[martin goddard]

You could add to that folk who "imply" they have seen combat on the Eastern front etc.   Such as "in the author's experience"!  Wow.
Also there was a set of WW2 rules in which the forward invited anyone with any comments to forward their own war record and combat experience, before having the temerity to challenge their perfect rules (take cover?) Although I believe  the rule writers had fought at Normandy, Arnhem, Kursk, Saipan and  Bastogne. Hence their prickliness about non WW2 veterans commenting?

[Duncan]

1: People who insist on playing so fast that you stand no chance of keeping up with what is going to on or who is rolling what, why or even whose turn it is and they talk to you in game rules shorthand as though you have the faintest idea of what they are talking about?

2: People who move buildings (or other scenic items.) just so they can get a unit into a square. They say it only represents that there is a building or worse still buildings, somewhere nearby. No, it is a building! Soldiers cannot pick them up just because they are in the way. If you cannot fit the troops in, they don't fit and that is that.

3: Games that have one tank and it is not one tank but represents a whole squad or platoon of them and similarly small units of infantry, cavalry that are actually not just 16 men but a complete regiment. If it is a 15mm game then I like the rules to represent a 15mm tank or unit of 16 or however many men. If I wanted to play a game with thousands of troops/ tanks etc I would use 6mm or smaller.

4: Yes, people who put their unwanted paws all over your models.

5: Not having a social aspect to the club. Yes you are there to wargame, but when you have been going for over a year and you know nothing about your opponent beyond their name and gender then we have lost something really. I do think that there is some merit in 'talk' time , either prior to games starting at a coffee break when the whole club breaks together, not just your game, or afterwards. All too often I find I am left playing and everyone else aside from my Opponent has done a runner and apart from an 'evening' or 'hello' I have not heard from them all night.

6: One more, sort of contradicts what I just said, but it is in a different context. People on the next tables talking so loudly that you can hear them but not what your opponent is trying to say.

[martin goddard]

Some good discussion starters there Duncan.

[Duncan]

It would be good to discuss some of these things maybe in the club? Do you think people would be open to discussion on general non game specific hobby stuff, or just general ideas?

I was only saying the other day that it would be good to have an evening at the club where we did not game but did stuff like made models, painted figures etc so we could still do hobby stuff but had time for some social interaction. Not sure how the others may feel about that?

[Leman (Andy)]

Has this become a forum for a specific club?

[Stewart 46A]

I think Duncan is just asking in general would club members meet to do other things within the hobby instead of playing a game.
He is asking the forum members their opinion.
I personally would rather play games as they are designed for two or more players so can not play at home (my wife doesn't play with toy soldiers). Painting is in my opinion a solo pastime and would probably not turn up at my local club if a painting night was organised.

[Duncan]

I suppose to be no extra, I enjoy painting figures and making models / scenery even more. I love to talk about them, do conversions and see what other people have done or are doing in order to get ideas and inspiration.

Gaming is by far a lesser important thing for me. I don't really care if I win or loose, I would rather have an extra dead Base than spend hours trawling through a book to look up the minutiae of a rule that describes something. It is just better to let your opponent Bhavesh the advantage especially if they like to woman's it seems fair to me. (Although I don't like people who run your face in it when they win all the time.)

I just want to enjoy the hobby and that to me is talking about the models and all that stuff, maybe play the odd game, but not get that bogged down in the rules. Have it a bit relaxed and laid back, time to get to know is people, they may even turn out to be nice and friendly, you never know? Maybe you could arrange to go out for a meal or a beer or something with them?

[SimonC]

I don't think that all these things should be mutually exclusive . At our club games are played and some come to paint and assemble their models. We always try to finish by 10 so we can have the game debrief in the pub. This has been the same for all the clubs I've been to pretty much