Observations on New Ancient Rules

[Forst22]

Have received my new copy of the rules, which I am looking forward to As I enjoy most periods using your rules.

On first read I do however have a few observations and questions.

A) Elephants, lots of reference to them being able to enter rough terrain,  but no reference to whether they need to roll to leave it?  And if so what the roll is?

B) Late units! As I understand it, these are units that fail to leave terrain due to failing the test, but still contribute to the melee. If the attacker wins do these troops follow up, or are they still left trying to leave the terrain?

C) Army list 55 years of the roses has 0-4 Levy in the auxiliary catagory, but you can only have 0-2 auxillaries? I assume the levy option should be in the close order line.

I also noted an annoying printing error - all the capital N's seem to have been replaced with an upside down i!

[macsen wledig]

a few typo's noticed here too. No biggy

[martin goddard]

Thank you for having a good look.
Any mistakes are my fault with no excuse.
 Here are some thoughts

1.Elephants.  Should be 4,5,6. A definite omission. Sorry.
2.After a fight, an assaulter that wins must/will move all of his units into the assaulted zone. The only exception are units that are not allowed in that scenery or artillery. There is no allowance for units to be left behind. That would lead to a lot of confusions I think. That keeps it simple.

3. Thanks for the WOTR note. I have updated it. I will add more armies to the book as players request it/them.

4. The capital N becoming upside down i. I need more information please. Where is this happening, whole document?

martin

[Forst22]

're 4 (upside down i)

P59 in the Narrative
P63 in Table (4)
P66 same table (4)
P71 in "N "otes
P76 last line
P77 last paragraph

Not on same tables in summary sheets as wording is different.

Also stray highlights on p96th and p 101.

Another question

Do chariots die by half bases like cavalry?

[macsen wledig]

some observations/clarifications required from me. BTW before I start, the rules are really good, clear and well laid out. I like them alot and will be gaming with them at the weekend

P4 - in the 'pink square' the word There is missing an e
P16 - In pink square, !otice in stead of Notice
P17 - No values for troop example auxillary with armour ie missing info and should be = 16 (I think!)
P21 - Yellow box - 4th line has the word mad - should this be may/made/and or something else?
P25 - Peach box - 2nd para 1st sentence doesnt make sense to me?
P28 - Gifts coloured box - there is Declare Directio! rather than Direction

If I find any more I'll let you know

[Moggy]

hehehe

Sorry I said that now about picking holes Martin.

Derek

[macsen wledig]

no not meant to pick holes, honest guv! Errata for reprints and e-files

[martin goddard]

It is appreciated chaps.
Any more, just send them in
Thanks


martin

[Forst22]

Just a query about shooting when assualted.

P69 says maximum 3 but all other references say max 4 including the example.I assume 4 is correct!

Also p69 says no reroll, but QR sheet says reroll OK? Assume No target reroll?

[martin goddard]

That 3 is a mistake. Sorry
4 is the number so that it ties in with all the other "4" in the rules.
Re-roll at target's request.

Thanks for finding these bits


martin

[Colonel Kilgore]

Thank you for my copy this weekend, Martin - the rules and their colour photos look great.

Simon

[Forst22]

Couple more observations on the rules.

A) the turn sequence is different on the downloadable play sheet, than in the rules regarding flanking which is first on the qrs, but third in the rules.

B) the text in the rules regarding fall back p78 regarding attackers options is different to that on the qrs which gives two options in close 4, Stay put or fall back one sq. I assume qrs is right as the text in the main rules on gives one option - say put.

[martin goddard]

Thank you Graham

I will get it sorted.


martin

[martin goddard]

Proper play sheet now uploaded. That should help.


martin

[Forst22]

Just working up a Thracian army for a game on sunday, and noticed the Cavalry in the example army in the lists is costed as shielded(20) rather than unsheilded  (12) as per the list?

Am I also thinking correctly that Elite units and Veteran units are basically the same adding 1 in melee, better saves in melee, improve morale. So the only advantage of being elite over veteran is that they contribute as well as veterans for morale/fighting etc so increase max bonus?