BB65

Started by martin goddard, October 11, 2019, 04:16:35 PM

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Nick

Must admit not used the hide in scenery rule at all so far. I'd be happy to see it go from the rules.

Nick

martin goddard

Yes Nick, that seems to be the way to go??

martin goddard

Done.
The rules will go to Les tomorrow for  brushing up....

Colonel Kilgore

Marin, sorry - I have a few more ;) (which I'll also include in my note to Les - I'll send a scan of detailed mark-ups in the morning):

- page 58: does Ward movement not being blocked by 4 or fewer bases apply to both own-side and opponent blockers? I think it is probably both, but it's not explicit
- page 67 [#39]: when guns are in the same Zone as an infantry unit that is targeted initially but then wiped out, any remaining hits are presumably then applied to the guns? Might be worth including such an example?
- page 67 [#40]: it might be useful to clarify that Arrivals dice need to be allocated to units attempting to join the fight before they are rolled?
- page 68 [#41]: there are discrepancies between the points shown in the top diagram and in the 4 examples below: this seems to be down to whether the Attacker baseline Zones are each worth one point or none
- page 73 [Battles]: would it be useful at this point to explicitly state which parts of the normal game set-up are skipped due to the battle scenario?
- page 86 [Mortimer's Cross]: shouldn't the Lancastrian left wing / Wiltshire be classed as Unreliable (due to choosing to sit out part of the battle)?
- page 89 [Second St Albans]: what is Unit X? Is it represented on-table? Is Lovelace? Or is it simply that a Yorkists unit is moved to any Lancastrian Ward on a 5 or 6?
- page 91 [Ferrybridge]: there explicitly isn't a "bridge Zone": presumably the +4D6 are additional points if both sides of the bridge are held?
- page 108 [Stoke Field]: presumably the Irish Kern charged because of the superior Lancastrian (and not Yorkist) firepower?

Simon

martin goddard

Please keep going Simon.
Best to know before print rather than after!!


John Watson

Page 108. I think Martin is right (if I remember correctly). The Irish kerns charged to stop themselves getting shot to bits by the de Vere's archers on the Royalist side.

Colonel Kilgore

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Quote from: John Watson on October 20, 2019, 01:56:57 PM
Page 108. I think Martin is right (if I remember correctly). The Irish kerns charged to stop themselves getting shot to bits by the de Vere's archers on the Royalist side.

My confusion is that the Kern are listed on the Yorkist side, but it then all says that they charged as they'd got fed up with the Yorkists' superior firepower. Hence my thinking that it was the (attacking) Lancastrian (John de Vere, Earl of Oxford) firepower that goaded the Kern into leaving their nice comfy hill (rather than being shot up by their own side). I believe that the large numbers of Lancastrian bows basically out-shot the German mercenary handgunners?

Colonel Kilgore

And another one, Martin:

I think (page 68) that the phrase "Zone control to the rear of that blockage" is at least partially contradictory to that in the following sentence of "unless interrupted by opponent 4.5 or more"

Leslie BT

Is this not on your makeup Simon?

Colonel Kilgore

It is, Les, but I thought I'd post my main queries here so that Martin has time to cogitate and opine, rather than him having to crawl through a hundred pages or so of my squiggles.

Which will hopefully make your task a little easier too  ;)

John Watson

Apologies Simon. You are right and Martin has slipped up. The Lancastrians (also known as Tudors and Royalists to avoid confusion) had the superior bow fire.

Colonel Kilgore

Les, Martin - I have just emailed you an 8MB scan - do please let me know if it doesn't make it through to you, in which case we'll have to try something else.

Simon

martin goddard

All safe and sound here Simon!! 
Thanks


martin

Leslie BT

Received thanks Simon.

Colonel Kilgore

Thanks for confirming, chaps - good luck Les!