Sample force CATTLEMEN MOO

[martin goddard]

There will be about 7 boxed sets for the new Western game methinks.

[Leslie BT]

+1 for the train, crew and station buildings with staff?

[Colonel Kilgore]

I like the way you're thinking Les!

[martin goddard]

The boxed sets for Western (for want of a better title) will be at about the £20-40 price range. i assume there will be some markers specific to the game along with deads. Not sure if the box will include mounted and foot options. Depends on the price aim.  Maybe  a piece of scenery?

[Colonel Kilgore]

That sounds good Martin. However, I'm not sure about the scenery, though, as folk my already have their own - particularly if they're buying multiple boxed sets. Probably similar to not including dice in these boxes?

I would go for a "basic" price point and see whether (in play testing) there is much call for dismounting / mounting up. If this is rare, then perhaps leave out the additional figures? Presumably the aim is to make it easy (e.g. they don't even have to work out which packs to buy!) for newbies to buy a rules-compliant force and start painting and playing as soon and as cheaply as possible?

[Leslie BT]

Again a box containing some of the bits you will need for the game, casualties, markers, buildings etc.

[Duncan]

Boxed armies would be a good one I think?

I don't think it's that expensive, if it is for a single outlay you don't have to buy them all at once. If you spent just a £10.00 a week in five or six weeks you would have an army and as said people spend much more than that on drink, tags, going out for meals or just luxury's when shopping.

[Duncan]

Are you going to give us a few more example armies? Please.

[Leslie BT]

I think the resolution of the cavalry in the SCW might help to sort out what may happen here and how to mix mounted and foot.

Alot of the army lists could be used for a number of forces.  Indians for example may see some of the PITS rules used for appear disappear!

Army, military forces would often be very similar. May be with some of the options as extras from the SCW.

Some of the irregular forces could use some of the Mountain tribe options from Vietnam.

The whole things needs a part of reality, a part of hollywood films, a part of Martins mayhem to create a thoughtful ruleset.

There may even be a river for the flat bottomed river boats and the paddle steamer for the gamblers.

The world at this stage is Martins little huître.

[Stewart 46A]

My sample cavalry force
Force Cdr- Maj Road
'A' troop  - Vet,  mounted ,long shooter
Ldr + 6 = 54
'B' troop - Average, mounted, long shooter
Ldr + 5 = 32
'C' troop - average, mounted, long shooter
Ldr + 5 = 32
'D' troop - average, mounted, long shooter
Ldr + 5 = 32

Force total 150

I built foot and mounted bases, cost 23 packs
1 character pack
2 foot cmd  packs
5 foot packs
2 mounted cmd packs
11 mounted packs
2 dead packs

[Colonel Kilgore]

Stewart,

That's useful - thanks.

To be clear, I think:

a) you have provided foot troops in case your troopers wish to dismount
b) the totals you provide are points, rather than figure count
c) the total models you have are:
- 5 mounted leader figures, on their own bases = 5 mounted figures
- 21 bases of mounted cavalry = 42 mounted figures
- 5 dismounted leaders (each on their own base) = 5 foot figuress
- 21 bases dismounted troopers = 42 foot troopers
- a bunch of dead'uns
d) strictly, folk could play a game without the dismounted figures, as long as they didn't want to be able to get down from their gee-gees

Have I got all that right?

Thanks!

Simon

[Stewart 46A]

My force ldr is a single figure
Foot cmd are 3 figures (because I had the figures) officer, bugler and guidion holder
All other bases (not dead) are 2 figures
I have based all my troops on 2p pieces because I like the skirmish look and when the rules are further along and firmed up a bit may purchase 2p movement boards

[Colonel Kilgore]

Stewart: OK, got it - many thanks for these clarifications.

By the way, how do you fit your horses on 2p pieces? - I don't see how I can get my cattlemen / posse horses to fit on properly without an overhang, and was thinking of sticking with the standard 3 x 3 cm for mounted and 2p pieces for foot.

Perhaps the US Cavalry horses have smaller bases, or maybe I'm missing a trick here?

[Stewart 46A]

Hi Simon,
I haven't noticed any overhang and don't have cowboys to compare.
I think in the rules Martin is suggesting 30x30 but nothing is set in stone ref bases size and number of figures.
Martin's cavalry are 3 per 30x40 base!

[Colonel Kilgore]

Thanks Stewart: I will have another fiddle with 2p's; I do like that kind of layout (cf. MOCB).

Or failing that go 30x30!

Cheers,

Simon