SB more clarifications

Started by martin goddard, May 17, 2025, 06:46:56 PM

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martin goddard

Hello all


After two games today Miles and martin have a few rules that need clarification.
These clarifications will help on the coming SB weekend.
I am putting them here so that all can see what might be sticking points in games.
If they have been asked and answered before, sorry.

1. Hasty defences.  Are they applied to the faces of a square (4 faces). OR does a single  marker make the whole square "hasty defences". I prefer the latter but what do others play/interpret.

2. I think that players now accept that the building objective (Grand manor) can be placed either on the road or off the road. Either is acceptable.

3. A player cannot claim for holding an objective and a row2/3 occupation. Only the objective can be claimed and  :)  the row 2/3 position.


4. Players can claim the free extra/additional square of movement  unless the units move into face contact with opponent held squares.

Thanks.

I will post some tactical thoughts/advice during this coming week too.

martin :)



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Quote1. Hasty defences.  Are they applied to the faces of a square (4 faces). OR does a single  marker make the whole square "hasty defences". I prefer the latter but what do others play/interpret.

The rules are not super clear, as the reference facing. But - this how we intrepret it - they protect all faces. The caveat on P47 is where is mentions a reduced effect of hasty defenses when attacked to the rear . I wish I knew what the superscript numbers point to - but is nothing mentioned.

Quote2. I think that players now accept that the building objective (Grand manor) can be placed either on the road or off the road. Either is acceptable.

It doesn't explicitly say it's a building square (in which case it must). I'm cool with it being on or off the road. Off the road is probably better, as you already have an objective on the tranverse road (crossroads)

QuoteA player cannot claim for holding an objective and a row2/3 occupation. Only the objective can be claimed and  :)  the row 2/3 position.

Nothing that states this ... we always count both.

Quote4. Players can claim the free extra/additional square of movement  unless the units move into face contact with opponent held squares.

nope P43 (third para in Extra movement section) , faces and corners stop extra movement

martin goddard

Thanks for that Simon
That gives some good common interpretations.
Hope all players are happy with that?


martin :)

Smiley Miley 66

Actually it does state that the " Grand Manor" is a building in the description? Well in my interpretation? It does ?
Maybe in the revision it should be written as "Château" as this would give it a slightly clearer definition!
As this would cover the all the "World" that the Rules cover ? Grand Manor is very "British" and not so much European definition!
Miles

Leman (Andy)




The way things are going you maybe ought to call it the big ranch.

martin goddard

Some background to SB.

Grand manor is a tribute nod to Peter Gilder's rules.
Dead wood is a tribute nod to Doris Day
Grassy Knoll is a tribute nod to John Kennedy
Davy's Road is tribute nod to Manfred Mann/Springsteen.
Coal Ridge is a tribute nod to the  poet.
Steep toe is a tribute nod to the TV series.


martin :)


martin goddard


Leman (Andy)

Thanks for that; straight to documents file.

Colonel Kilgore

One minor thing to clarify in due course, please.

Aircraft (section 21, page 35), are either "early" or "late". But neither are defined.

With an explicitly "early war" or "later war" army list, it's probably obvious.

But maybe less so with others e.g. a mid-war list.

Not at all a big deal, but probably worth tightening up in the next issue.

Simon

martin goddard

Good point Simon.
1915 can count as late.

martin :)

John Watson

If they are early then they arrive too soon and bomb an empty field, because the battle has not yet arrived. If they are late then they bomb an empty field, because the battle has moved on. Stick to artillery barrages is my advice!
John

Colonel Kilgore

Quote from: John Watson on May 27, 2025, 07:01:53 PMIf they are early then they arrive too soon and bomb an empty field, because the battle has not yet arrived. If they are late then they bomb an empty field, because the battle has moved on. Stick to artillery barrages is my advice!
John

We can always count on you for sage advice, John. I shall bear it in mind on Saturday.

Simon

Leman (Andy)

 :D  :D  :D What a jolly japester.