RFCM

RFCM discussion => Terrain and Figures => Topic started by: SimonC on June 20, 2019, 03:44:51 PM

Title: GW contrast paint
Post by: SimonC on June 20, 2019, 03:44:51 PM
Lots of comments about GW paints on 28mm figures. But here is a specific PP experiment.

The GW 'grey' contrast primer, with 4 contrast colours  - flesh, red , blue & green .

First up some sharpeshooters. I did this primarily as an experiment for other green/khaki mono armies you might do.

(http://badwargamers.com/bad/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/64978653_727658177691264_8543685658307198976_o.jpg)

Final product will some regular black and white touches

(http://badwargamers.com/bad/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/64777437_727658087691273_4913795332288020480_o.jpg)

Next up some Zoaves for a bit of colour.

(http://badwargamers.com/bad/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/64957354_727658101024605_3565499484827811840_o.jpg)

Final product with some black , white and silver touches

(http://badwargamers.com/bad/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/64804541_727658124357936_3070960543591301120_o.jpg)

(http://badwargamers.com/bad/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/64896377_727658197691262_2516090742208724992_o.jpg)


Overall not at speedy as you think. With a sloppy wash technique you can be fast, knowing that you will be round to touch up with an opaque colour. Here you are painting 'in the lines' as you want the primer to show through.

I also noticed that I missed quite a few spots first time round. Going back to touch up isn't that easy once its dried.

BIG bad point - and this isn't a fault of the paint, but the fact that you are only putting 1 coat on, is that the paint is easy to chip. Normally, there would be primer, wash ,2 dry brush  then final glaze for the same effect. Here its just one coat over  the primer  - so is far more delicate

BUT actually it was easy to do !   it was like colour by numbers. So has a somewhat relaxing vibe to it all. Knowing you can get the colour right out the pot without worrying about mix , paint, medium... all taken away. So if you a looking for something that allows a bit of midfullness then perhaps this is it.

Thumbs up from me.
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on June 20, 2019, 04:23:39 PM
Thanks for sharing, Simon. It seemed particularly effective on the green for the sharpshooters.

And not too sloppy on the Zouaves either ;)
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Radar on June 20, 2019, 05:00:38 PM
Again, thanks Simon.

Question: how will you paint your next batch of figures -  normal paint method or GW Contrast?


(The flesh looks particularly good)
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: martin goddard on June 20, 2019, 10:03:40 PM
Thank you Simon. A good review with the points i am interested in, all covered.  Ta.
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Leman on June 21, 2019, 02:18:36 PM
Indeed very useful. May try it out myself as it does look particularly effective.
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Rittervonbek on June 21, 2019, 05:26:09 PM
Might have to try some on horses. 
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Radar on March 24, 2020, 10:00:13 AM
Came across some nicely turned out PP ECW this morning which have been painted with GW Contrast paints.
https://www.vislardica.com/blog/2019/12/29/another-ecw-battalion-added?format=amp (https://www.vislardica.com/blog/2019/12/29/another-ecw-battalion-added?format=amp)

Viewing on my phone and zooming in, I can't see much of a difference from block painting and washing. I can see the benefits of Contrast with a bigger canvas, so to speak, but other than horses or one colour 15mm figures I can't really see their value for those of us with smaller sized figures. Certainly not in terms of buying into a whole new paint system

Unless the time saving is significant of course.

Now that Contrast paints are tried and tested what are your experiences of using them fellow RCFMites?
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 24, 2020, 10:06:46 AM
I agree Radar - nicely-painted figures (albeit I prefer your basing ;)), but I can't see the difference from Contract paints.

Simon
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: SimonC on March 24, 2020, 10:29:53 AM
Quote
Now that Contrast paints are tried and tested what are your experiences of using them fellow RCFMites?
Modify message

I've pretty migrated to contrast for all painting now. 'Regular' paints have been relegated to spot colours.
Constrast paints are not that much quicker I find, but they do have a level of mindfulness that makes painting more pleasant
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 24, 2020, 10:55:05 AM
Quote
Now that Contrast paints are tried and tested what are your experiences of using them fellow RCFMites?
Modify message
... a level of mindfulness that makes painting more pleasant

I think you must have reached some kind of meditative state in painting that I can only dream of, Simon!

Simon
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Leman on March 24, 2020, 11:03:57 AM
Can’t get my bonce round this weird California Psycho-babble nonsense. Just a string of random words which together appear to mean very little.
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: SimonC on March 24, 2020, 11:11:26 AM
Quote
string of random words which together appear to mean very little

colouring by numbers make me happy  :)
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: SimonC on March 24, 2020, 11:13:09 AM
Quote
meditative state in painting that I can only dream of

I did 400 zulus this week - not PP I know, and easy to paint
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Leman on March 24, 2020, 11:14:27 AM
How about 400 Zwarte Piet for the Christmas Wars?
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on April 14, 2020, 08:18:07 AM
I found a great review of Citadel's contrast paints here:

https://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2019/06/review-citadel-contrast-paints.html

It appears to give a balanced view of pros and cons but, perhaps most usefully, shows the results of different paints over different GW primers (and compares these with ink washes in some instances too).

I'd be interested in comments on this piece from those that have already taken the plunge.

Simon
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: SimonC on April 14, 2020, 09:19:25 AM
i think its a pretty fair assessment ... not for everybody, but takes the strain on what would be an 'advanced technique'
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Radar on April 14, 2020, 01:06:29 PM
Thanks for the 'find' Colonel. Could be of use for the 100s of Napoleonic Austrians I don't want to paint.
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Matías on April 15, 2020, 03:41:50 AM
Thanks for the link Colonel, a very interesting read.
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Leslie BT on April 15, 2020, 05:38:58 PM
For paint effects take a look at these, amazing lots of ideas.

They are all downloadible and a number have how to you tube videos with them as well.

https://ak-interactive.com/downloads
Title: Re: GW contrast paint
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on April 15, 2020, 06:15:58 PM
Wow - "amazing" is the word for it - thanks Les!

Simon