RFCM

I've seen quite a few posters this week advertising the forthcoming film "Hostiles":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJz5l5ru7ws

Looks good for atmosphere and guidance on painting Cavalry and Indians, as well as modelling Western scenery.

And it seems to have been getting rave reviews from some of the press.

Well, that is synchronicity indeed. I woulds have advised a few more fighters to reflect a proper 300 point force. maybe they were using an early version , say number 13?
Looking forward to it.  Club film???

I think the key roles are all "Leaders" combining the "Gifted Shooter" and "Gifted Fighter" attributes...

Obviously Hollywood. Those two skills cannot be combined.  tut tut!

They can if your leader is called Dave.

Dave is becoming a legend of the old west.

The film looks excellent. I suspect it was inspired by an early iteration of the Western rules. Hopefully there will be a mention of the RFCMteam in the end credits.

It's US release is 22nd Dec so hopefully same time here and remember it's only for guidance

I will take some rules and packs along to the cinema for sale.

And sell them with some ice cream at the interval?

Film out next week. I am looking forward to it!

Have you considered allowing another leader to be upgraded to a gifted fighter/shooter as well as the general? Maybe they would need to be the opposite of the general or the same, depending on the army type. Could be a similar concept to the army 'champion' of old.
For a suitable points increase of course. Would not need to be mandatory, just an option. You could say they have to be the leader of a veteran unit though if you wanted some control I suppose?
What do you think? Good idea/pants idea/no opinion?

Booked to see 'hostiles' Sunday

Duncan, it is a fine idea. However the problem is that each extra part added makes the rules more difficult for players.  Any addition would be for gaining new tactical dimensions rather than steering toward the popular 28mm skirmish aspects.
This means that there is no intention to add in further skirmish content. Western is closer to the tactical/historical end of the gaming spectrum as opposed to the 28mm skirmish end of the spectrum.

What happened to the film Hostiles?

Looks like the thread has been hijacked!!!!!!

Watched the film this morning. Some good shooting scenes no hand to hand and I thought the film very slow, so slow in fact even the horses walked most of the time. Hope you enjoy it when/if you go.

Thanks for the review, Stewart.

On balance, is this a thumbs up, a thumbs down or not quite sure...?

The story was fine but I was wanting more action and less talking. Stunning views though.

Thanks, Stewart. I guess I will have to go and see for myself!

Hostiles is very much a spin off (many of same actors and same cinematography) as Godless
Haven't seen Hostiles yet but Godless was good (a bit Hollywood )

Finally seen this and really enjoyed it. Moody is one word I would use to describe it.

I saw this too the other day ... It was good. Grim, but good.  Bucking the current movie trend of immortal heroes, having real sense of fatality.

genuinely happy that the guy caught a break at the end - no spoilers!

Is your Plains Indian force finished yet Simon (probably a daft question at the speed you paint!). I'm collecting a couple of forces this weekend so could be ready for a game soonish?

I am allergic to political correctness so I usually try to avoid the trash which Hollywood has been churning out non-stop for the last couple of decades. However, because of the reviews found here I made time to watch Hostiles.

Hostiles wasn't a bad effort (even the politically correct message it was sending to the couch potatoes was handled in a discreet manner. Probably more deadly :() and I think it was well paced for the story it was telling. Those looking for lots of shoot outs and gratuitous violence should probably stick with John Wayne or Clint Eastwood movies. I give Hostiles a thumbs up.

I have ordered  Scalp Dance: Indian Warfare on the High Plains, 1865-1879 (https://www.amazon.com/Scalp-Dance-Indian-Warfare-1865-1879/dp/0811729079#reader_0811729079) from Amazon in order to learn more about this period because up to now I have only been familiar with the Plains Wars through John Wayne films.  :o

Looks interesting Mike. Do please give a précis of any important points it makes

thanks

martin

Read it a good few years ago. Pretty gruesome stuff describing what both sides did to each other.

My favourite and highly recommended read is 'Bury my heart at wounded knee'. I've seen it described as a bit sentimental but gives a good history with lots of voice given to the Indian tribes.