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RFCM discussion => General discussion => Topic started by: martin goddard on August 19, 2024, 02:52:13 PM

Title: Naming rules
Post by: martin goddard on August 19, 2024, 02:52:13 PM
Naming rules is always enjoyable I think.

Here are a few rambling thoughts.

Clever/obscure titles are not a good idea. e.g. "The day before the day before"  , "A twinkling in the Fuhrer's eye". OK for titles of novels but not rules.
People will not find these rules with an internet search.

In days of old (1980), most people would find a ruleset by browsing at shows, or seeing other players use those rules.
Now the internet must be considered as a way that folk might  find your ruleset what you wrote.
In addition magazines often promote their "favoured" set.

There were many fewer rules in the old days too. Thus, a recce for Napoleonic rules might find just 6 viable options in the 1970s but 25 viable options in the 2010s.

There has been a  phase and popularity  of  "x"  and "X" titles. e.g "gun and tank" or "red British and blue French".

There have been "humorous/rude" titles, but that does lessen the potential audience. This is because they may consider the rules  of little interest because the namer has shown a "light" attitude."Battles Under Mortars", Ho ho.

Some rules have very factual titles.  e.g "The war between Spain and Ireland 1753 to 1768."

Some rules use an acronym to create/use a new word.  e.g. "War  Hunts At Towcester"

Some rules use an event/place. eg "Chinese Farm" "Sebastopol".

Some rules have a title which is deceptive.  e.g "Viking Battles" (6 figures a side), "Army Commander"(each player has battalion).

AK47 is the current RFCM project.
The full title is AK47 Republic.
The title hints at what war is covered.
I am tempted to call it  "war in Africa.AK47. " so that searches find it more easily.

Your general thoughts on rule names/titles ?

martin :)




Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 19, 2024, 03:53:27 PM
I like AK Republic, its title is on the tin.
Republics won with the AK 47.
Miles
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Sean Clark on August 19, 2024, 04:42:33 PM
Always a tricky one. Something catchy but obvious. 

I'm not a fan of acronyms spelling rude words. Too formulaic for me.

Down the years there have been classics that have really stuck in the mindset.

In the Grand Manner
Principles of War
Rapid Fire
Sword and the Flame
Flames of War

Most of these  sure we all know. Capturing the feeling with a title is hard.

I could add any of the RFCM titles I think. Certainly Square Bashing amd AK47 I think are very well known outside of the forum.
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: martin goddard on August 20, 2024, 07:28:33 AM
There can also be a problem with over used (?) words, causing rule sets to be mixed up.

e.g Battle.  Goes back to the Charles Grant rules and keeps coming up in various combinations.
e.g. Fire
e.g Panzer
e.g. Blitz
e.g Napoleon

Each of these words will attract the attention of gamers I think.  Hence their use.

martin :)
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: John Watson on August 20, 2024, 09:47:40 AM
To keep things in balance, as we are told we should these days, the new rules should be called M16. Sounds like a motorway spur just north of Cleethorpes.
John
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: martin goddard on August 20, 2024, 12:58:05 PM
Ah yes.

The ACW; "the late unpleasantness"
"Special military operation"


martin :)
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Forst22 on August 20, 2024, 03:13:46 PM
AK47 - beyond Republics

AK47 - the Lion sleeps tonight

AK47 - Our Africa

Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Dex13 on August 20, 2024, 04:02:01 PM
I still think AK74 or AKM are logical progressions for the current iteration.

I know why you would want to focus on Africa but the game and system can apply to far more than that. Banana Republics (other fruits are available) in South American are a classic alternative.
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on August 20, 2024, 05:14:51 PM
I'd forgotten about the AKM, until I saw one in a museum earlier today. It was actually a Hungarian AK63, but close enough.

That said, I think the term "AK47" is so well known (even if equally widely abused, like all British Battle of Britain fighters being Spitfires, and all German Late War tanks being Tigers) that it should remain in the rule name.

A secondary tag could work well - has someone already suggested something like "AK47 Republic - the Dictators' Edition"?

Simon
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: martin goddard on August 20, 2024, 05:45:39 PM
I might do a range of covers?
Players can choose the one they like


martin :)
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: John Watson on August 20, 2024, 06:07:03 PM
AK47 "Banana Republic" edition
AK47 "Idi gettin' it in for de masses at a very reasonable price an' not making killin' in de market, or anywhere else for dat matter" edition
AK47 "King of Scotland" edition
AK47 "Wagner Group" special
Just a few suggestions
John
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: martin goddard on August 20, 2024, 09:45:46 PM
Excellent chaps. Thanks.
I do like the king of Scotland

martin :)
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Leman (Andy) on August 21, 2024, 11:18:08 AM
A set of rules that has an obscure title is Force of Virtue, which actually derives from a mechanism within the rules, but gives no clue that it is a set of skirmish rules set in the Italian Wars, particularly at the time of the Borgias, 1492 to 1503.
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: mellis1644 on August 22, 2024, 03:34:59 PM
Speaking of bad names the ww2 game 'V for victory'- which is actually '5 for victory' is oddly named IMO...
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: martin goddard on August 22, 2024, 04:17:49 PM
Maybe it is a 5 a side game?

martin :)
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Sean Clark on August 22, 2024, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: mellis1644 on August 22, 2024, 03:34:59 PMSpeaking of bad names the ww2 game 'V for victory'- which is actually '5 for victory' is oddly named IMO...

Glad I'm not the only one! I know the authors are French, but the natural presumption is Vee for Victory.
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: sukhe_bator (Neil) on August 22, 2024, 05:45:57 PM
Unaccustomed as I am to Post War/modern gaming of any persuasion, the title 'AK47 Republic' says it all for me on several continents. I would have thought you'd potentially run the risk of alienating the existing fanbase if you don't incorporate that into the new rules you guys are developing... AK47 Republic The Fully Reloaded Edition works for me...

Neil
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: martin goddard on August 22, 2024, 06:13:02 PM
The new version is probably  to be named "AK 47 Republic- People's Edition".
That should work well.

martin :)
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Nick on August 22, 2024, 06:42:50 PM
Changing to a grid is a bit of a revolution to the rules.
How about "AK47 Republic - Revolution!"

Just a bit of fun (quite happy with People's edition)
Nick
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: KevinS on August 22, 2024, 06:56:49 PM
What about "Beasts of the African Nation", this could/would cover a vast period of African history from the 1950's - 2000. All influenced by leading world nations of Europe and it's rush during the 19th century+and dominance of power, oil, copper, diamonds and  uranium.
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Smoking gun on August 22, 2024, 08:41:01 PM
I do like "Peoples Edition". It has a certain ring to it and does give a nod to revolution. The politicians always are always talking about "the people" and how the people will be liberated, better off, etc.

Best wishes,
Martin from Grimsby
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on August 22, 2024, 10:36:44 PM
I too like People's Edition.

I do feel that we need a proper debate over where we place the apostrophe, though: People's or Peoples'...

Simon
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: John Watson on August 22, 2024, 11:48:57 PM
Surely Popular People's edition (splitters).
John
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: martin goddard on August 23, 2024, 06:05:49 AM
As said earlier, there will be at least 13 different covers to cater for all.


martin :)
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Sean Clark on August 23, 2024, 07:30:19 AM
Personalized covers would surely be a first in the industry.

A bit like those 'special' editions some popular rules release where they charge twice as much for the same rule book but with a different cover.

Maybe charge £50 for a special cover. It will be an investment!
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Leman (Andy) on August 23, 2024, 11:29:07 AM
Well, after perusing various comments on this and other sites I have reached the conclusion that, after 58 years, I have never been a wargamer but rather a tabletop re-enactor. No wonder the pub was the best bit.
Title: Re: Naming rules
Post by: Dex13 on August 29, 2024, 06:36:20 AM
AK47 Republic - Victory Square!? Just chucking that in!

I do like the idea of a personalised cover. Having your name name on the PDF was revolutionary enough I thought. However, clearly, theree's more!