There have been some PBI days recently. Here is another one.
Entoyment
PBI Sunday 26th May 2024.
2 games.
To tst out the rules.
All welcome. there will be pare armies if arranged beforehand.
All armies have no tanks, transports or armored cars.
I suggest paratroops, but other non tanks/vehicle armies are fine.
Do copy and amend this if you are coming along.
1. Jim
2. Eric = German paras
3. martin = US airborne
4. Alan
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martin :)
I will be there, depending on how many people I will bring either a UK/european or Mediterranean style table set up.
1. Jim
2. Eric = German paras
3. martin = US airborne
4. Alan
5. Miles EW British, Homeguard or Crete ? Maybe a loan Para army ? Table set up.
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Miles
This is shaping up fine.
Maybe a couple more players?
martin :)
I should be free. It'll be German infantry with a couple of Pak 40's. Is that OK?
No Hanomags?
That can be arranged!
Your army will be fine Sean.
The aim is to have games without tanks and transports et al.
martin :)
Quote from: Sean Clark on May 14, 2024, 12:53:42 PMThat can be arranged!
A new take on Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? ;D
Simon
Update.
A few ums and errs on the horizon.
1. Jim
2. Eric = German paras
3. martin = US airborne
4. Alan
5. Miles EW British, Homeguard or Crete ? Maybe a loan Para army ? Table set up.
6. Ben +1 ?
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martin :)
I think this is the final list?
1. Jim= British paras
2. Eric = German paras
3. martin = US airborne
4. Alan=
5. Miles EW British, Homeguard or Crete ? Maybe a loan Para army ? Table set up.
6. Ben = British paras
7. Stewart= Russian paras
2 games
Entoyment
9am kick off.
Scenery will be whatever Miles, martin and Stewart bring. Probably something green?
martin :)
Miles and Stewart.
Can you bring a full set up with 16 scenery templates (no need to bring too much) , objectives, partials plus cloth. Thanks.
Miles, do you have a spare army for Alan?
martin :)
All I have is a choice of British BEf/Nw Europe or British 8th Army ?
Miles
Update
Thanks Miles. Not needed now though. Alan cannot get along. Lack of transport planes?
1. Jim= British paras
2. Eric = German paras
3. martin = US airborne
4. Miles EW British, Homeguard or Crete ? Maybe a loan Para army ? Table set up.
5. Ben = British paras
6. Stewart= Russian paras
martin :)
Update One out and one in.
1. Jim= British paras
2. Eric = German paras
3. martin = US airborne
4. Miles EW British, Homeguard or Crete ? Maybe a loan Para army ? Table set up.
5. Ben = British paras
6. Stewart= Russian paras
7. Fred= Japanese
martin :)
I'll have to await the next one. I've now had my knee operation but can't drive for 2 weeks 😡
And I'm sorry that I can't drop in for this one - Sundays are more challenging, particularly over the Bank Holiday weekend.
Simon
Scenery
I will bring some scenery. A full setup.
Because it is paras I feel obliged to bring a snow setup (?)
martin :)
I will bring a complete Green table
As it's summer
Stewart
We now need autumn and spring.
I will bring Vivaldi four seasons for the car trip Stewart.
martin :)
Good evening chaps, I would love to join you on Sunday, assuming I can borrow an army and hitch a lift?
I will bring a "green" (nw Europe)table, but I might also put a "brown" (Mediterranean) in the car so the choice can be made ?
Miles
Welcome Jim
I have a British para force if that works for you?
It has 3 strong platoons + MMG platoon.
I do have Tetrarch tanks but the day is infantry only.
Officer
1x SMG
5x Rifle
1 x Lt Mortar
1 x PIAT
3 x Bren
(12)
MMG platoon
Officer
4 MMG
1 rifle
(6)
martin :)
I'd drop the PIATs if possible as their is no armour and add a base to the support platoon to bring it up to 7 bases.
John
You are right John but that is all I have.
They are my only army with the casualty bases any way related to the unit colour/name.
Officers are Morecombe, Yarwood, Allen, La Rue and Emery. The 70's were great (?)
martin :)
Quote from: martin goddard on May 23, 2024, 11:21:26 AMOfficers are Morecombe, Yarwood, Allen, La Rue and Emery.
They sound like a smart bunch. ;D
It's a dashed shame to be deprived of tiny tanks, I'll assume they got lost over the channel somewhere.
So thanks Martin, red devils suit me fine.
Thanks for the steer John, I'm sure I can find *something* to shoot the piats at!
All the best,
Jim
PIAT is quite effective at a building square. Especially with your rolling Jim ?
Miles
1. Jim= British paras
2. Eric = German paras
3. martin = US airborne
4. Miles EW British, Homeguard or Crete ? Maybe a loan Para army ? Table set up.
5. Ben = British paras
6. Stewart= Russian paras
7. Fred= Japanese
Table 1= Miles Spring
Table 2 =Stewart Summer
Table 3= martin Winter
Table 4= We have no autumn table?
martin :)
;)
Quote from: Smiley Miley 66 on May 24, 2024, 03:31:49 AMEspecially with your rolling Jim ?
Thanks for the tip. I'd have to say it was beginners luck and a charitable opponent Miles! ;D
We have a good selection of armies
Mostly veteran.
I think the Veteran armies will probably be 4 units in size?
I am looking forward to it. Hope PBI is water tight?
martin :)
Mine will be Raw. Either one Home Guard or my Crete force ?
Miles
A good day of gaming
Total 6 players, 6 games
All Veteran Para forces
Results
Points Game 1. Game 2
Stewart 133 Attacker win Attacker win
Fred. 128. Attacker win. Defender lost
Ben. 100. Defender lost. Attacker win
Eric. 89. Defender.lost. Attacker win
Martin. 80. Attacker.win. Defender lost
Jim. 67. Defender lost. Defender lost
Stewart
A good day of gaming Stewart
Thanks to those who came along.
There was also a big ACW game there, plus a lot of warhammer sci fi too.
martin :)
Attacker wins all round. Does this tell us anything?
John
Valid observation John.
Some of the story behind it is that the more experienced players beat the less experienced players.
Good validation for a set of rules.
Stewart won twice . He is probably the most successful PBI player of all time. Well done Stewart.
Fred won his first game against Jim who has just started playing.
martin won his first game because he cheated a bit?
By looking about I believe the games went very well in terms of success potential.
It was interesting to have no vehicles.
My bazooka bases got quite bored.
The re-roll assault D6 worked well.
Jim went for the 340(edited) point option and can report here on his thoughts.
Stewarts Russian paratroopers got their first trip out.
Eric's German paras got onto my base edge in their second turn. Quite a shock for my US.
The rules are about finished, but maybe we can have another PBI day or two in addition to the battle days planned?
martin :)
240 points sounds like a challenge@
I'm fairly sure that the record of wins and losses is pretty even overall for attack and defence. Such a small sample of games I'd probably statistically insignificant.
As Martin says, you'd expect player experience to be a factor as well as a bit of cheating 😂🤣😅
Apologies :-[ . 340. No wonder he lost.
martin :)
I asked Ben his thoughts on this, he had two points.
1. He messed up his points total on his army, so had slightly under strength units.
2. He found the US rifles very powerful in the first game.
No whinges just his view on the games, other than that he found every thing fine.
D&B
Thanks for the feedback Dave.
martin :)
Quote from: martin goddard on May 27, 2024, 08:25:54 AMSome of the story behind it is that the more experienced players beat the less experienced players.
Just so. I made a sequence of rookie (didn't read the rules) errors which combined with terrible dice scores left me losing both of my games.
By my count I think they were my fifth and sixth games of PBI. Possibly seventh and eighth.
Significantly I am still learning the rules and can see that some of my decisions were poor only with hindsight.
As I told both of my generous opponents, Fred and Stewart, getting a bloody nose will help me remember the rules. Not literally obviously! ;D
I used the 340pt option for my first game against Fred. I thought that the benefits would be ideal for aggressive chaps whilst overlooking the possibility that I might be defending! Of course I ended up defending in both games.
The 340pt option is a good option to have available I think. I'd stick with +4 to Assets as I don't think it's overly generous. The increased reliability of Assets (probably) and much faster arrival of reinforcements (probably) compensate for the reduced company size about right.
Certainly, I think I had a chance of victory, at least for the first few turns. I can ascribe my loss to poor decisions, ignorance of rules and terrible luck.
If the option doesn't make the cut then I'll still try using it as a house rule. ;D I can imagine situations that would rationalise the small unit size for any nation. It was easy for paratroopers, 160pts lost in transit.
I'm happy to keep testing the 340pt option as it might excuse further defeats. ;D
All the best,
Jim