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RFCM discussion => Announcements and Shows => Topic started by: martin goddard on December 11, 2023, 07:44:21 AM

Title: Salute 2024
Post by: martin goddard on December 11, 2023, 07:44:21 AM
I am  going along to salute 2024.
Saturday  13th April 2024.
No trade stand just a club game of CK.

Anyone fancy coming along for a day of CK gaming, plus of course some show wandering too?
Anyone who comes along will get a free ticket to the show of course.
I am going up on the train.
London Waterloo and then the underground et al.

This means I would meet you there.

martin :)
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: John Watson on December 11, 2023, 09:59:10 AM
No thanks Martin. Last Salute I went to was 2016. Previously I went by train once and it took me 6 hours to get there. It was like being in "Trains, Planes and Automobiles" without John Candy or Steve Martin.
John
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on December 11, 2023, 10:21:10 AM
The spirit is willing, but I have a half-marathon the next day. So will need to think through logistics.

By when are you looking to finalise numbers, Martin?

Simon
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: martin goddard on December 11, 2023, 11:05:32 AM
Thanks chaps.
No great hurry on numbers. Maybe Feb 2024?
I am intending to bring the whole set up (figures, scenery, cloth)  but it would be nice to have some help. If folk are busy that is no problem either.

martin :)
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on December 11, 2023, 11:41:31 AM
Thanks Martin. I would like to come if I can. I've never actually been to Salute (!).

I'll let you know by next February  ;D

Simon
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on December 12, 2023, 03:19:19 AM
I would like to come, but I ve got to look at my finances?
I am going to a big music festival in August, so my spare cash is going on that ?
Miles
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: beza on February 17, 2024, 11:15:55 AM
@martin goddard

Any chances you could bring a small order with you ? Just some dice and C&K rules.

Let me know.
Bart
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on February 17, 2024, 11:29:12 AM
It turns out that we're going to be away that weekend, so I won't be able to attend. Apologies.

Simon
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: martin goddard on February 17, 2024, 12:13:35 PM
Hello Bart
Sadly I cannot bring any orders to Salute as that would violate the terms of putting a game on.  I think that is very fair from their point of view.
I am there as a club game anyway and not a PP official game.

Do come along and play some CK Bart if you have the time.


martin :)
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: John Watson on February 17, 2024, 01:40:34 PM
Bart, if you live anywhere near the New Forest I am seeing Martin at the beginning of March and could act as go between.
John
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Leman (Andy) on February 19, 2024, 10:10:51 AM
Would love to, but committing myself to a stay in Antwerp in September for the return of Crisis. Only need to take two trains from Groningen to get there.
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Sean Clark on April 16, 2024, 10:28:48 AM
Just watched a video taken at Salute. The video person stopped at the Conquerors and Kings table and spoke with Nigel.

The observers comment "oh they're a bit like To the Strongest" annoyed me.

I realise I shouldn't let things like this bother me, but the implication that C&K have followed in the wake of To the Strongest comes across as disingenuous and shows a lack of knowledge of these things.

I'm going for a nice cup of tea to calm down.
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on April 16, 2024, 02:35:53 PM
I hope it's a nice pot of camomile, Sean  :)

Simon
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Sean Clark on April 16, 2024, 03:50:43 PM
It annoys me that certain rules and manufacturers become almost ubiquitous. I understand the culture of popularity where there people play the popular rules, the more popular they become because more people see the games being played and social media gives them a further boost.

Yet there are dozens of other rule sets, not just RFCM, out there that would probably be equally as popular if they could just get that break by having someone with an audience shout loud and proud about them.

I am just feeling grumpy today. Tomorrow, I may cheer up a bit.
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Martin Smith on April 16, 2024, 04:59:56 PM
Quote from: Sean Clark on April 16, 2024, 03:50:43 PMIt annoys me that certain rules and manufacturers become almost ubiquitous. I understand the culture of popularity where there people play the popular rules, the more popular they become because more people see the games being played and social media gives them a further boost.

Yet there are dozens of other rule sets, not just RFCM, out there that would probably be equally as popular if they could just get that break by having someone with an audience shout loud and proud about them.


Sometimes it seems it's just the weight of the publishing company which sells it, Sean. eg some of the Osprey 'blue book' games are very, very good, and rightly get recognition, while others are 'less well received' but still get plenty of promotion, because with Osprey behind them that's what's going to happen.

Nowadays I shrug my shoulders and ignore the hype as far as possible. If something is right for me, then it'll be me who decides, not the weight of hyped-up wargaming public opinion.
I think the RFCM rules plough an unusual furrow, with grids being somewhat 'marmite'. However, they're still holding your attention, and making you happy, so that's a gotta be good thing.
Comments that C&K are "......a bit like To the Strongest" are just a reflection of the commentator's lack of a wider perspective...more fool them, perhaps.
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on April 16, 2024, 05:15:00 PM
Is the "a bit like To The Stongest" comment based on:
 a) they're both Ancient "period" rule sets
 b) they both use grids

or was there more to it, Sean?

Simon
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: martin goddard on April 16, 2024, 05:23:03 PM
A "bit like" insinuates that it is based upon.
Similar to "lord of the rings" is a bit like "Harry Potter"?


I remember being in Derek's Record shop Bournemouth . "Band on the run" just released.  "Hey, Paul Mc Cartney was in another band before wings!"



Nothing I can do about it but not a huge issue.

martin :)
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: martin goddard on April 16, 2024, 10:25:19 PM
The insinuation of "a bit like" is that it is derivative?
Lord of the rings is a bit like Harry Potter?

RFCM rules are probably not a bit like much else.

martin :)
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on April 16, 2024, 10:47:31 PM
I agree, Martin - RFCM rules are different in many wonderful ways.

I think the comment made is more a reflection on the commentator's exposure (or lack thereof) to RFCM (and indeed other?) rules than anything negative about C&K per se. Which I think we here all agree are a jolly fine set of rules to fight the kind of games we like to play?

Simon
Title: Re: Salute 2024
Post by: Sean Clark on April 16, 2024, 11:35:42 PM
Yes, I don't imagine any slight. But again it's as if squares were invented elsewhere and that C&K is following that trend.

I'm more than happy to plough my furrow playing RFCM games because they give me all I want. I see Peter Pig as a trendsetter rather than a trend follower and long may that continue.