In the world of wargaming what have you happily said goodbye to?
For myself
1. cardboard bases
2. Enamel paints
3. Average dice
4. Felt cloths
5.SAE for product list
6. Shooting templates
7. Contoured hills
8. Pins for spears
9. China graph pencils
10. Little coloured pebbles.
11. Vacuum formed scenery
12. Standing orders
None of the above annoy me but they are nice to have been left behind.
Your ones?
martin ???
A tape measure (mostly) :)
Simon
Written orders for troops.
Individual bases for 200 troops per side.
Simon
Banana oil.
Lead bases.
Piano wire.
martin ???
That rubbery flock stuff that always falls off...
Simon
Tubes of plastic cement.
Best wishes, Martin of Grimsby
Coloured plastic "casualty caps" - which I think came from some kind of medical packaging (probably suppositories)?
Simon
Bounce sticks for artillery.
Complex charts to work out casualties
Rivet counting
28mm...
National characteristic charts.
Simon
Wasn't Riddance a Vin Diesel film?
martin :)
Storing troops in variously-shaped boxes and finding that they'd be fighting amongst themselves while in storage.
Simon
Polystyrene terrain tiles.
Nick
Are there companies still making those tiles Nick?
martin :)
Sand tables ;D (no, I'm not quite that old).
Simon
Agreed, sand tables are gone.
martin :)
Quote from: martin goddard on November 03, 2023, 12:08:31 PMAre there companies still making those tiles Nick?
martin :)
Total System Scenic still seems to be in operation: https://totalsystemscenic.com/product-category/modular-tile-system-small-tiles/
There are also plenty of recent video tutorials on how to make your own.
While this firm makes something similar albeit with MDF:
https://sarissa-precision.com/collections/terrain-tile-system
Simon
Quote from: martin goddard on November 03, 2023, 12:08:31 PMAre there companies still making those tiles Nick?
martin :)
To be fair, although I've said good riddance to them, I still have them - I just put my fleece mats over the top of them!
Nick
Bickering and pedantic gamers. I'm pretty certain that 1mm will not make a difference to a game.
Quote from: Nick on November 03, 2023, 01:17:47 PMQuote from: martin goddard on November 03, 2023, 12:08:31 PMAre there companies still making those tiles Nick?
martin :)
To be fair, although I've said good riddance to them, I still have them - I just put my fleece mats over the top of them!
Nick
I gave mine away - they take up too much space!
Simon
Beer mats for bases....
Casualty removal....
Ordering figures unseen with no idea what they looked like....
Having to order "test" figures to see what they looked like...
Converting everything from Airfix figures.....
Neil
British style buildings, usually for model railways, being the only ones available.
"Quick Play" rules that needed at least 4 hours to play them.
Simon
Quote from: Colonel Kilgore on November 05, 2023, 07:44:30 PM"Quick Play" rules that needed at least 4 hours to play them.
Simon
....ooooh, yessss 🤣
Newbury Fast Play rules always amused me. I feel something was lost in translation when they were deciding on what to call the rules.
Quote from: Sean Clark on November 05, 2023, 08:54:03 PMNewbury Fast Play rules always amused me. I feel something was lost in translation when they were deciding on what to call the rules.
I did play one game with them.
It took 18 months to play ;D
Simon
Quote from: Sean Clark on November 05, 2023, 08:54:03 PMNewbury Fast Play rules always amused me. I feel something was lost in translation when they were deciding on what to call the rules.
I used them quite a lot in the early '80s. We even ran a mini-campaign at the Basingstoke club with them, from memory, but with small, reduced points size armies. Too many plus and minus factors for my liking 🙃. If these were Fast Play, I certainly didn't fancy picking up their regular 'non fast play' rules...
Simon, you must stop rushing.
martin :)
Can't help feeling that the new posts section of the site is less than perfect. It says:
Re: Good riddance to:-
martin goddard
Although I'm next.
Derek of Cambridge
That might be valid in a few years?
martin :)
Newbury rules were interminably slow, although the fast play were quicker (I fondly remember a Roman game in the early 80s with my brother), they were still long by today's sense of 'fast play'.
I recognise this is an older topic but I definitely don't miss computations involving armour thickness, armour angle, projectile type, muzzle velocity, your aunt Doreen's favourite colour and any number of other obscure factors.
Maybe that's already been covered but good riddance! :D
To be fair, I started *serious* wargaming with Gavin Lyall's "Operation Warboard" rules in the 80s. (Before that it was Britains and Airfix in the sand pit). ;D
I'd give an award for the epic sounding title, which to a teenaged acne ridden Jim conjured up images of "A Bridge Too Far".
However I'd award nil pointes for accessibility.
One novel feature was requiring players to scribe out fiddly little templates on OHP transparency sheets. Don't miss that at all.
I guess it were proper job at the time but I bust so much pocket money trying to mark them out! :(
Right, I think I might have tired myself out.
Toodle pip chaps.
WRG rules, Newbury rules, enamel paints, plasticine for conversions, yacht varnish, Army Painter dip. Weirdly I have discovered a late in life fondness for plastic kit bashing, so 15mm metal WWI and 28mm plastic early Saxons on the go at the minute.
Log table and factor based rule mechanisms.
Firework display games due to lack of command friction thus allowing everyone to move exactly how their commanders want every turn.
Written orders.
By and large, in our group, points based games.
Being tied to 40x20 bases. Many of my smaller figures are now mounted on much smaller bases than those recommended by the rules. Also goodbye to "for smaller figures use centimetres rather than inches". Sometimes that's a shrinkage too far, thus where Inches are used in the rules I make my own rulers with "inches" expressed as fractions of an inch to suit the amount of downsizing I have done. And who says the table has to be 6x4. I now play most of my games on 5x3, 4x3, 2x2. I can still manage 6x3 if necessary, but that would be a 28mm skirmish game.
Quote from: Leman (Andy) on March 29, 2025, 07:46:38 PMBeing tied to 40x20 bases. Many of my smaller figures are now mounted on much smaller bases than those recommended by the rules. Also goodbye to "for smaller figures use centimetres rather than inches". Sometimes that's a shrinkage too far, thus where Inches are used in the rules I make my own rulers with "inches" expressed as fractions of an inch to suit the amount of downsizing I have done. And who says the table has to be 6x4. I now play most of my games on 5x3, 4x3, 2x2. I can still manage 6x3 if necessary, but that would be a 28mm skirmish game.
Sounds familiar....for 'x' Rampant in 15mm I use "double the inch distance, use cm", so a nominal 6" move becomes '2x6= 12cm', about a 20% reduction, and 'dining room table compatible'. Same idea, measuring sticks marked out in relevant converted distances.