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RFCM discussion => Terrain and Figures => Topic started by: Traffic on September 10, 2023, 11:12:30 PM

Title: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 10, 2023, 11:12:30 PM
A good chat with Milesat Colours about what I have been working on.  Some generic terrain and the oposing forces for Stalingrad.

This all started from a discussion with my boys' uncle who is a model boat builder and the use of palight as as building material. So I ordered about 10 sheet and 100 scalpel blades.

From there we then started looking for rubble ideas and ruins.

I scratch built the first three buildings and went from there trying out rubble mixes and scatter terrain
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiGeerfwDjPXM9SpBljhk1ER8eKbKKzA13iEUDd5j1G2RyMcutGDluKppt5eUILCPP1saTPyZdJH9orCQbi8nqQrV4ZPIvoVU1nHpjuB07liyWrS_xW9putFjXHkGT9_LmnESxGtJBqZ8zt1m8GUdgHftDpe4zy0uHMOsbNpzKu-v7zEPQQmppXlh6wlO8/s4032/IMG_1827.HEIC)

4' x 4' board with the scratch built factory in the middle which is gradually taking shape, the residential blocks to the left and then scatter terrain and more rubble applied.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7uadX_1qjk8ok7NAsIZ332wAD2bzuOJmeLKqiGkvKVIxnCLCKJFSstglxvyAq7xypiVmd8G7Lgn1CmPZcKWQOvsBMyxQnjY4B1RUoo_jBEhXd-ulQyhNBXnnrd-H3V09XdnD6dekVcG28U8JOBAUKGJJKREFGiqUWUvJqtBuAMm1nIPB_pThK3JuVhmE/s4032/IMG_1871.HEIC)

One of Martin's snipers from the "new" Russian pack
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjhdfTUZ-c__ElZlBQSKcg41fiqbRdalVZ3DVOkSMVEDNUWkVCK3O3FyMgvTP5xdDl1yIRFRpWFzNHnLoyO2CRsZvKUH5XSUp99sPqDoVmVOkqGeX2TNSydCjHIsujHnC-RgoVQFiy3A-bNnT53OobY0HaepSwPfBVnVD6rkmrHSB-tb-w85llF7j_QXmU/s4032/IMG_1870.HEIC)

Using expanding foam for the base of piles meant I could reduce how much rubble it would take.  Still have to add scatter rubble over the top to hide the edges on the early test pieces.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiwnWGihLgUjnQvODJxqmDeYJed6NmPu9qI7jDWv5lbNmvTHdIej3jXTtwLIG8Q5Fzbw931PWsVq6L3PNlQIaMvoPBFG3L0LpxMoHvjlgOb44gJSu7JAMFplGkrlIePyqXXxErs_c65rcUNvRxfzskZEFnWhIRMmoPSX9yfobJtwvbWLMMQPBdTsoa7hMg/s4032/IMG_1826.HEIC)

Some off cuts being put into use for scatter terrain or marking the corners of closed terrain.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7sPcDos_RfIsC-X1jQXMQf57Y0eC7au0RSEcX-QypQ0nR279PbwmWkRRy8XH4vl4Uolj6eZUfR3R4G3a1BI7GSw48DncROnOSpIPR2OeI8c6J_EeD54kGnm74NcwrxOLZD1atuCnvR663nu5PMKdceVLzqTF-gC0oxVKrBKSHZXF70PxpF-cP-jU53io/s4032/IMG_1802.HEIC)

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhezDL1UGoo6EWuX8vf8EPoyGq0JbSlEE8KwTBZm6I8Dg9RvgNW36BFpRkpLHX1WbRwGeHvqLcmfbtECAUlvzBeHABT9tDMueF-1pHXS4buZj73iOVGcl8ZhQe_HyxiF6UXNDhyTzlizYB5k4IpbRqq2oXR5KLjtmlWNyODDLSCXJJ1m_khljb-yDPaF1I/s4032/IMG_1786.HEIC)

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEihQvLo63yHnb6JO0ZKl6_Sco86V9xwsxHWQ0hOEzc-bdH4UyOB0uu0pDtvQBNbQkjymN4Iq_STpJsISbIjtODZ37UHd0zM7M1nYHJdcC4UblEjwcskAeclKO22OWnyPNUmb_--uyx-54vB4xhKbqJHxaykNvPVcMuau9DQ6SHN8B2r6anz5r_h3mqepXE/s4032/IMG_1781.HEIC)

(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTcafB8BoTukXyvl9Z5d0fcr7mKzGiaID_cr6NlcCLSl1XwRgD8YDkh7POkbZGR2kVxFMfDpHqlVxi3el_mjQB5T-2OgB2t-UGk8cHSkqMhQ7g_waMT3tDsVGcD9Mh4AHy1N2JcfeIcLS1JM1HXBAujAmOintqhkjrYo60tllGl71Zd_2Ej2U3U5fRis0/s4032/IMG_1779.HEIC)

Bags of Rubble waiting to be laid on the table (they are now completely intermixed!)
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEicZZFiAcOZQxEf1SVGLqUmnvO4lYTcJaALrG7yaxbfFRHNGavEwAPScZJ_onHO0pfCnvORWwHM5nV_fZS33pwHP5VaLJ0dMizMelFZ_3YstVe8QHrZxX3vGcYX_499_SWWOkPSVfEMrUUVajhuibo5TM3hWpo9Sdu5Gg4FoQObdX5FHgF2wXOHHtmiwAw/s4032/IMG_1770.HEIC)

Just testing the concept at this point on the first building
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi59M5iWeaZWWl5dmqRnqTQFMAng7wQ6vQlfD9p5O7ReWIbVtjOkKFI5fQf3N2K-gqgUzNRYlTjsYUFroQwYhv0RRfX5JxiaDQbWMiRJBoovfXMDPbbWD2n_maSAm0BC6g4ZpfyUftq0BWmhDKh2qwaVJaSibAn8CpAClYxle44XxBXKMlxgo0b0ifwLbg/s1920/IMG_1767.JPG)

The first one I built using the palite material. Completely impracticable for gaming purposes.  I couldn't get figures inside it so one of the corners was chopped off and the interiors walls changed over as well.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTdp0BucbbqmFL6V5ULrqCBa1qXl5LpgwhKjephothV3--lMep5uUps_PZ1bv3qFBavnD0O5-9CX0IH5fyx-ueZrfOknS0gnkOqeFWO4ESZ9rb2-QBt0tyQ4H4MHuBT9PZOKDm4IR55idontRRrCgzB8mFvyYZdTL3DMDuk3vVv-imy5_q5JPKdsmFlWI/s320/IMG_1763.HEIC)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 11, 2023, 06:54:26 AM
That's some great modelling work there, Traffic - thanks for sharing the process you've been through.

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 14, 2023, 12:07:26 PM
Some
More terrain ideas. Ranging from DAS clay and a brick roller to painting match sticks and cutting up pieces of off cuts
(https://i.postimg.cc/3dfWSLWS/IMG-1907.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3dfWSLWS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/y3YYn9KC/IMG-1909.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y3YYn9KC)

(https://i.postimg.cc/5YJtYTk0/IMG-1910.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YJtYTk0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/G9c2c0yg/IMG-1911.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G9c2c0yg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NLp0FN8s/IMG-1912.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NLp0FN8s)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CB4xj7W4/IMG-1913.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CB4xj7W4)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tYJ4xhDh/IMG-1914.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYJ4xhDh)

(https://i.postimg.cc/p9zTdRC4/IMG-1916.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p9zTdRC4)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: martin goddard on September 14, 2023, 02:23:37 PM
Nice work Si. When do we see it in action?


martin :)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 19, 2023, 12:21:20 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/cgB9fHdr/IMG-1934.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgB9fHdr)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hh06dCGp/IMG-1937.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hh06dCGp)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zyGdK5Qf/IMG-1938.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zyGdK5Qf)

Today we have been building chimney stacks. Built from a template I drew in PowerPoint (for ease) to speed things up. Palight is an ideal material to use for scratchbuilding.  One more to build later today after work and then into some more buildings
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 19, 2023, 02:12:09 PM
So I need three. All done and the first two given a plastic primer undercoat at lunch time
(https://i.postimg.cc/n9DKFWKb/IMG-1939.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9DKFWKb)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: simmo on September 19, 2023, 02:20:17 PM
This is wonderful. Groan I tried making Pavlov's house but gave up. Lots of great ideas here. I like the technique of rolling out the Das clay and texturing it with the brick roller. I'm deffo gonna do this. Can I ask where you got it from?

Cheers

Martyn
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 19, 2023, 02:27:47 PM
I bought it off Etsy. There also some on green stuff world
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 20, 2023, 08:01:19 PM
So printing out the building templates and fixing them with repositional spray mount means that it is a case of cut and glue which speeds things up immensely with simple box shapes. Theses are slightly over scale but I just want an impression.


(https://i.postimg.cc/t7qh4J2S/IMG-1944.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7qh4J2S)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VSXjdbxT/IMG-1945.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSXjdbxT)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XG39FY3v/IMG-1946.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XG39FY3v)

(https://i.postimg.cc/w1y5Yr09/IMG-1947.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1y5Yr09)

(https://i.postimg.cc/872Rpb0M/IMG-1948.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/872Rpb0M)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XG8dg67k/IMG-1949.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XG8dg67k)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 20, 2023, 09:53:02 PM
That's a very slick trick!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: martin goddard on September 21, 2023, 12:09:43 PM
This is getting clever. Well done


martin :)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Moggy on September 21, 2023, 12:18:39 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192702790926?hash=item2cddfb3d0e:g:3twAAOSwEY1dtB0f&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0JFMsy2AsNc%2BUrMolJNkqsdTlTHefmaY1HtIbLU2CP9hc5onitPlB7impKbJUUZh3169FdAOqcEtYk9jjwpHhDfG0ChTXLXVACfrd%2FV2NijuEX%2Fp%2FdhgWSXYIYijKoh%2FTS9BOEFohpW0jNvekW1gxQILcl8plncIdQpTlobnXztDz6rej3TfHPfRNLpBXrLuhdansDn%2FYyq8PhT99Zp%2FaEZ1w2aB4%2F2LhDu2OA9EtbBYVvDwRwTeW187ygXuLu85Aplgu9eJIaZ%2Bx%2BdYLyg9RNc%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-jSpPfWYg

seem to have a lot of textured rollers that should do the trick.

Derek
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 21, 2023, 12:32:58 PM
The Green Stuff World ones [https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/51-modelling-textured-rolling-pins] look good too.

I have been tempted, but their rollers are often too short to fully cover a standard 6" x 12" RFCM template.

Simon

Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 22, 2023, 12:56:11 PM
Test prints of eye window frames

I can thicken the depth up to 1mm but need to give about a 0.5mm tolerance to account for my poor cutting skills.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9DYxKq55/IMG-1954.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DYxKq55)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KRLp7H0Y/IMG-1955.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KRLp7H0Y)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 22, 2023, 02:11:38 PM
Now you are getting fancy!  :D

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 22, 2023, 07:57:16 PM
So scrapped the resin frames as they weren't robust enough so went back to the SLA printer.

(https://i.postimg.cc/0r7CL0fb/IMG-1960.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0r7CL0fb)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 22, 2023, 10:35:24 PM
Chimney sections printed out and some place t ideas

(https://i.postimg.cc/Mf8FjyVH/IMG-1961.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Mf8FjyVH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hfs5fQj4/IMG-1962.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfs5fQj4)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hXG3x4zL/IMG-1963.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXG3x4zL)

(https://i.postimg.cc/HrPvtGXf/IMG-1964.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HrPvtGXf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gnm7zHGB/IMG-1965.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnm7zHGB)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 23, 2023, 10:12:09 AM
Judging by the number of chimneys, that's going to be a lot of scenery!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 23, 2023, 06:22:25 PM
Quote from: Colonel Kilgore on September 23, 2023, 10:12:09 AMJudging by the number of chimneys, that's going to be a lot of scenery!

Simon

The cottages will take a lot up in a small foot print. Looking at 65mm building on a 75mm base.
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 24, 2023, 12:00:38 PM
Couple of test pieces. The 3x3 and 6x6 modules mean then can be used in different combinations and rule sets.

For now just going to use the same basing material as the main terrain surface and then go back and add debris and burnt effects later.


(https://i.postimg.cc/xqHYrzzq/IMG-1968.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqHYrzzq)

(https://i.postimg.cc/v1NMy7hx/IMG-1969.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1NMy7hx)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 25, 2023, 10:06:47 PM
6 out of the 12 in progress. They need to have the basing material fixed with scenic cement and then possibly some dry brushing. As they were mostly burnt out I might go back and change the colour of the insides and debris
(https://i.postimg.cc/MXwGhVrW/IMG-1983.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXwGhVrW)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: mellis1644 on September 26, 2023, 02:55:41 PM
Super impressive stuff
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 27, 2023, 11:48:05 AM
So some 15mm track I designed last night.

Falls between two topics but will form part of the overall terrain set when the good wagons etc are added.
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/r0zvVZcD/IMG-1986.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0zvVZcD)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VSkhgZJK/IMG-1987.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSkhgZJK)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 29, 2023, 08:07:37 PM
Tempo a bit slower this week. But brick texture starting to go on


(https://i.postimg.cc/MnHSvbkB/IMG-1988.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MnHSvbkB)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fSvN08Tc/IMG-1989.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fSvN08Tc)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 29, 2023, 08:09:42 PM
Ooh - very nice - that is coming to life.

Are you using textured card for the bricks?

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 29, 2023, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: Colonel Kilgore on September 29, 2023, 08:09:42 PMOoh - very nice - that is coming to life.

Are you using textured card for the bricks?

Simon

Textured wall paper. Shamelessly stole the idea from The Lead Adventure forum. Found some on ETSY (seems to be a theme :) )
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on September 29, 2023, 09:00:52 PM
Chimney stacks all done while watching the rugby
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/kBnRG4nS/IMG-1990.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBnRG4nS)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 01, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
Locomotive shed and another view of the chimneys


(https://i.postimg.cc/DSJd5pcq/2-E8-B5615-A89-C-49-B0-A7-ED-E38-CC4-A43-A1-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSJd5pcq)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8jnmRgLp/IMG-1993.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8jnmRgLp)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 01, 2023, 10:11:04 PM
That wallpaper really looks the part!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 04, 2023, 10:13:56 PM
These haven't come out as I expected. I think it is the ballast size. So I have cut some more hardboard and will go back to the drawing board and try some different ballast size and a raised track bed. Colour wise it is okay I think it is the scale effect in the eye.

(https://i.postimg.cc/CdW8VdJ5/IMG-1998.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CdW8VdJ5)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xXQbc7wS/IMG-1999.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXQbc7wS)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 04, 2023, 10:17:12 PM
I don't see a lot wrong with them as they are - what am I missing?

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: martin goddard on October 05, 2023, 07:53:42 AM
When making a game this grand Si you need to include an error.
That allows "bods" to point it out to you.
They are then happy and the rest of the game is allowed to proceed.
Beach head show February 2023?


martin :)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 05, 2023, 04:17:54 PM
So a bit of trial and error. V3 on the left, V2 on the right which had wood detail that was wasted compared to the originals.  Still 12mm track width but apparently Russian main line track was equivalent to about 15mm. Not going to change as the new lengths will be theatre generic.
(https://i.postimg.cc/N5Rqpcc9/IMG-2004.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5Rqpcc9)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 05, 2023, 05:04:26 PM
I like the thinner sleepers  ;)

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Smoking gun on October 05, 2023, 05:08:48 PM
Looking good to me.

Best wishes,
Martin Buck
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 10, 2023, 01:04:48 PM
The larger work hall will have drop in modules to allow for different configurations.

About 42" in length and 13" deep. I hadn't thought it through when I started.


(https://i.postimg.cc/CB6JsHqq/IMG-2028.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CB6JsHqq)

(https://i.postimg.cc/473BcFmG/IMG-2029.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/473BcFmG)

(https://i.postimg.cc/p9CsptVk/IMG-2030.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p9CsptVk)

(https://i.postimg.cc/G4k7nyZW/IMG-2031.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4k7nyZW)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 10, 2023, 01:25:33 PM
That's going to be big.....

BTW, your workbench (dining room table?) is way too clean and tidy. Could you please add a few more flicks of paint and knife score marks before sharing any more such photos?  ;)

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 10, 2023, 01:45:32 PM
It is the dining table. The upstairs workbench is full so I have had to move downstairs. And the one in the games room keeps getting used for 40K by the kids

(https://i.postimg.cc/njLRQKk6/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/njLRQKk6)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 10, 2023, 01:52:40 PM
Ah - that's much better, thanks  ;D

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 10, 2023, 05:05:43 PM
Made 6 modules today and just placed them inside the components made this morning (waiting in more foam to finish the 3 new sections) and placed on a 4' wide board to get a better impression. At least another 6 drop in modules to be made up and then it all needs to get (re)painted with plastic primer once the windows have all been added.


(https://i.postimg.cc/BXZN5JJ9/IMG-2033.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BXZN5JJ9)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 11, 2023, 12:40:37 PM
Waiting for APC to deliver more foam and glue ;)

So using offcuts where possible to make the odd piece and some use of Lego to keep things vertical

(https://i.postimg.cc/XGtB9Q7P/IMG-2034.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XGtB9Q7P)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hfLQ78FC/IMG-2035.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfLQ78FC)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 11, 2023, 06:18:22 PM
So the nice delivery person dropped off 10 more sheets of 2mm foam.

Quick assembly session after work. Just three more modules to do. Which may or may not get done tonight


(https://i.postimg.cc/JHNpbS86/IMG-2037.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JHNpbS86)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3yk9Lk7D/IMG-2038.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3yk9Lk7D)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yJ2j27Yp/IMG-2039.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJ2j27Yp)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 11, 2023, 06:31:00 PM
Impressive stuff - this is scenery at scale!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 12, 2023, 11:25:00 AM
Managed to get it all undercoated this morning with plastic primer. I have re-coated the first couple of sections to make sure I have a consistent base colour


(https://i.postimg.cc/TLMFrR6X/IMG-2041.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLMFrR6X)

(https://i.postimg.cc/LYt7Dr9g/IMG-2042.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYt7Dr9g)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hXvknyrN/IMG-2043.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXvknyrN)

(https://i.postimg.cc/v420vG5N/IMG-2044.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v420vG5N)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 12, 2023, 05:10:24 PM
Adding the internal windows

(https://i.postimg.cc/mhZHdHRp/61-DC7-F59-DE08-4-D44-926-C-E043-A38-AF1-B2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhZHdHRp)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 12, 2023, 06:17:10 PM
And onto the exterior windows

(https://i.postimg.cc/dkJcRg0W/BA265183-D8-B2-4501-AFF5-9541-D17080-FB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkJcRg0W)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 12, 2023, 08:56:37 PM
Are you going to glaze them too...?  ;)

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 13, 2023, 09:28:01 AM
Quote from: Colonel Kilgore on October 12, 2023, 08:56:37 PMAre you going to glaze them too...?  ;)

Simon

You never know

(https://i.postimg.cc/N59JbQrF/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N59JbQrF)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 13, 2023, 09:31:01 AM
But today I have a day off. Some jobs around the house but have built the last of the straight rail sections.  Undercoat these later today and might get chance to work on the ballast of the three already painted
(https://i.postimg.cc/LYW7651d/IMG-2050.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LYW7651d)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 14, 2023, 02:27:12 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/H8M5KJ3B/IMG-2069.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/H8M5KJ3B)


Off to start another set of modular sections for the table.  These will be 15cm x 20cm modules so they can be designed and templates made which speeds up things and improvements from the first set.
(https://i.postimg.cc/mcTwHSVR/7124471f-0580-4064-afbd-dffbc4075087.png) (https://postimg.cc/mcTwHSVR)

And a bit of inspiration from a recent Xbox session on one of the Stalingrad maps.
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 14, 2023, 06:28:05 PM
Templates let me crack on through the build process. Also means I can use up off cuts from earlier as well.

A bit smaller at 15cm x 20cm


(https://i.postimg.cc/rdnLS1Zv/IMG-2071.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rdnLS1Zv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RWWYjkgb/IMG-2070.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RWWYjkgb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jnqgvmWc/IMG-2072.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jnqgvmWc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TLJNVfPh/IMG-2073.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLJNVfPh)

(https://i.postimg.cc/c6dbsgD3/IMG-2074.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6dbsgD3)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 14, 2023, 06:58:01 PM
That looks like a very professional approach.

What's that snazzy machinery in the second picture down?

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 14, 2023, 08:57:58 PM
Quote from: Colonel Kilgore on October 14, 2023, 06:58:01 PMThat looks like a very professional approach.

What's that snazzy machinery in the second picture down?

Simon

That will be my Ender-3. A FDM 3D printer. Working hard on making all the window frames
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 14, 2023, 11:26:16 PM
Four modules done. Need to do a more squat warehouse and then start to look at the apartment blocks


(https://i.postimg.cc/mct5FNTP/IMG-2075.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mct5FNTP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PPQ9G565/IMG-2076.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PPQ9G565)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 16, 2023, 03:26:00 PM
Small warehouse sections undercoated and a proof of concept for building faces. Need to find a smoother filler


(https://i.postimg.cc/3Wg95NVW/3314026-F-0717-4-CCB-AB82-8801601-D76-DA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3Wg95NVW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VJHWBCrZ/IMG-2078.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJHWBCrZ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/2VGwyJzD/IMG-2079.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2VGwyJzD)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: simmo on October 16, 2023, 04:26:45 PM
That will be my Ender-3. A FDM 3D printer. Working hard on making all the window frames
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The tech guys at the MK (Milton Keynes) maker space like this machine, it's the machine a few of them have as their personal machine. I've found it easy to use.

Martyn
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 16, 2023, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: Traffic on October 16, 2023, 03:26:00 PMSmall warehouse sections undercoated and a proof of concept for building faces. Need to find a smoother filler


I think a little overscale can look fine - this does to me!

Simon

Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 16, 2023, 04:51:05 PM
Quote from: simmo on October 16, 2023, 04:26:45 PMThat will be my Ender-3. A FDM 3D printer. Working hard on making all the window frames

The tech guys at the MK (Milton Keynes) maker space like this machine, it's the machine a few of them have as their personal machine. I've found it easy to use.

Martyn
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All very space age. I wish I had the space for something like this!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 18, 2023, 07:17:41 PM
So a bit of progress, but day job getting in the way.
(https://i.postimg.cc/R3RhS5d8/7575-F46-B-B6-DF-4926-9-C89-377-F9-A243596.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R3RhS5d8)

Next factory unit underway
(https://i.postimg.cc/Q9YM7QRJ/IMG-2082.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9YM7QRJ)

All assembled
(https://i.postimg.cc/LY8XhC0s/IMG-2083.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LY8XhC0s)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 18, 2023, 07:22:10 PM
That's all coming along very nicely, Si!

Day jobs are over-rated  :D

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 19, 2023, 09:41:27 PM
Everything undercoated for the Workhall 2 table. Working on the rail points and rolling stock

(https://i.postimg.cc/DWwYX00d/IMG-2088.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWwYX00d)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 20, 2023, 01:14:03 PM
Brick effect added to the main hall at lunch.

Took about an hour. Template to cut the paper, glue, position and leave to set

(https://i.postimg.cc/mcnby1GN/IMG-2090.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mcnby1GN)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nMDLT2rs/IMG-2091.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMDLT2rs)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vcwZKnx0/IMG-2092.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vcwZKnx0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/dhB3r014/IMG-2093.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dhB3r014)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4YJNfT5t/IMG-2094.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4YJNfT5t)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9RzDWjc1/IMG-2095.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RzDWjc1)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: simmo on October 20, 2023, 06:00:57 PM
I like the idea of the brick cladding. Is that standard railway modelling cardboard sheet?

Martyn
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 20, 2023, 06:35:59 PM
Quote from: simmo on October 20, 2023, 06:00:57 PMI like the idea of the brick cladding. Is that standard railway modelling cardboard sheet?

Martyn
Hi, no it is textured wall paper with a brick  print.
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 20, 2023, 07:28:38 PM
I like the industrial way in which you're addressing these industrial buildings, Si!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 21, 2023, 10:53:37 AM
Quick piece added before heading off to rugby


(https://i.postimg.cc/34ChmysK/55-FBC90-C-A3-D5-448-F-B5-DD-EF90-A09-D8-FDE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34ChmysK)

And what the brick sheets look like.

(https://i.postimg.cc/zb15ywPt/IMG-2098.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zb15ywPt)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 21, 2023, 10:56:56 AM
Very effective brickwork, and very neat workmanship!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: simmo on October 21, 2023, 02:36:28 PM
This looks great. Okay so your using textured wall paper...did you put it through your printer?

Martyn
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 21, 2023, 11:18:13 PM
Quote from: simmo on October 21, 2023, 02:36:28 PMThis looks great. Okay so your using textured wall paper...did you put it through your printer?

Martyn

Sadly not my idea. I get them off Etsy scaled at 1/87
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 22, 2023, 03:57:30 PM
Most of the brick added to the exterior surfaces. Haven't decided if I will do the interiors as well or just paint them with a stone grey/cement colour.

Trying out some filler on the exterior


(https://i.postimg.cc/hQ0VrzvK/IMG-2107.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hQ0VrzvK)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 23, 2023, 11:39:20 AM
This week we move onto domestic buildings and apartment blocks.

Template done, need six of these. Pain in the proverbial to cut out and I need to work out if I want to be able to place figure bases on the upper levels


(https://i.postimg.cc/21KZ3KCC/IMG-2108.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21KZ3KCC)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: simmo on October 23, 2023, 01:19:26 PM
Oh course if you had a laser cutter this task would be easy :)

Sorry to be Mr ask loadsa questions but I am being inspired by this thread. I did try building Pavlov's house which of course is an apartment block but abandoned it. I just didn't get the windows in the correct proportion. And there are a lot of windows..

With the Esty Brick card did you buy the download and print it yourself? There seems to be lots of sellers here.

Of course should you send me the above file (dxf) I'd be happy to laser cut it out for you....2mm MDF? Which I've got lots of.

Martyn
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 23, 2023, 05:02:12 PM
Quote from: simmo on October 23, 2023, 01:19:26 PMOh course if you had a laser cutter this task would be easy :)

Sorry to be Mr ask loadsa questions but I am being inspired by this thread. I did try building Pavlov's house which of course is an apartment block but abandoned it. I just didn't get the windows in the correct proportion. And there are a lot of windows..

With the Esty Brick card did you buy the download and print it yourself? There seems to be lots of sellers here.

Of course should you send me the above file (dxf) I'd be happy to laser cut it out for you....2mm MDF? Which I've got lots of.

Martyn



After trying to cut that out earlier today I could be sorely tempted to take you up in the offer.
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 23, 2023, 05:09:00 PM
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1049596182/ (https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1049596182/)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 26, 2023, 01:08:24 PM
And as I now have a laser cutter :)


(https://i.postimg.cc/xXLYwQ6q/IMG-2117.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXLYwQ6q)

(https://i.postimg.cc/xJ12Nznb/IMG-2118.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJ12Nznb)

Cut to about 1mm depth at 50% power and then cut out with a scalpel. Took about 20 mins including the laser bit so I should be able to quickly cut the 11 panels I need this week/weekend.

Seriously in need of a new respirator.
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 27, 2023, 02:29:38 PM
So today is about the blood sweat and tears that go with building stuff.

First off is the blood

(https://i.postimg.cc/NKcx0mfc/IMG-2122.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKcx0mfc)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 27, 2023, 03:38:21 PM
Ouch!

Let no-one ever say this is a bloodless hobby...

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 27, 2023, 03:51:53 PM
Sweat and tears however are ameliorated by tools


(https://i.postimg.cc/9r4h2xWr/IMG-2124.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9r4h2xWr)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VS9wTdzg/IMG-2126.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VS9wTdzg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Lh8SC9wk/IMG-2127.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Lh8SC9wk)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8sXSq8g2/IMG-2128.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8sXSq8g2)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 27, 2023, 07:49:15 PM
Very impressive, and hopefully worth the spilt blood!

It's great to see what can be achieved with the technology nowadays: I'm just waiting for the figure-painting robot to come out :)

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 29, 2023, 03:46:51 PM
Used the extra hour to start the distressing phase.


(https://i.postimg.cc/jCn6YHfv/IMG-2135.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jCn6YHfv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nC84FXYx/IMG-2136.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nC84FXYx)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 30, 2023, 12:57:28 PM
Stairs...


(https://i.postimg.cc/RNC6rLFh/IMG-2145.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNC6rLFh)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NLk9PzQZ/IMG-2146.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NLk9PzQZ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kDmRsmPx/IMG-2147.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kDmRsmPx)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on October 30, 2023, 01:17:23 PM
It's wonderful what you can achieve with that cutter and a bit of organisation. The "distressing" process is adding another dimension to the whole thing.

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on October 30, 2023, 07:32:45 PM
Undercoat on

(https://i.postimg.cc/T50jKzJW/IMG-2148.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T50jKzJW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yWy2hWf0/IMG-2149.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yWy2hWf0)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jLqmMK9m/IMG-2150.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jLqmMK9m)

(https://i.postimg.cc/WdhKP8s7/IMG-2151.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdhKP8s7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gxQ7chJb/IMG-2152.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxQ7chJb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QH6PPwZt/IMG-2153.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QH6PPwZt)

(https://i.postimg.cc/WFPfgPg9/IMG-2154.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFPfgPg9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Tyb4KPLL/IMG-2155.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Tyb4KPLL)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on November 06, 2023, 06:27:57 PM
Work on the Commissars House


(https://i.postimg.cc/N2Y5W2vn/IMG-2174.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N2Y5W2vn)

(https://i.postimg.cc/n9kCZVHh/IMG-2184.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9kCZVHh)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PNz4NmJP/IMG-2197.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNz4NmJP)

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(https://i.postimg.cc/SjpdyZyB/IMG-2199.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjpdyZyB)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on November 06, 2023, 09:23:47 PM
This is great stuff, Si, and coming on a treat!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on November 06, 2023, 09:42:49 PM
Thanks for the encouragement.

All glued together and undercoated.  False floor added.  PVA and brickwork next and then think about the rest of the walls and the second floor. By the time the building was assaulted it had taken a pounding from SiG33Bs but not enough to breach the walls so might just add damage around the windows.

Need to do the front steps, columns and balustrade. Once all the brickwork is on

(https://i.postimg.cc/w7DffGdw/IMG-2204.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7DffGdw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/w1HWSQqg/IMG-2205.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1HWSQqg)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on November 07, 2023, 05:19:30 PM
Brick work today, plus an idea of size. It is about the same dimensions deep.

(https://i.postimg.cc/F7mYtzgJ/IMG-2206.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F7mYtzgJ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PpY59nC4/IMG-2210.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpY59nC4)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on November 07, 2023, 09:17:05 PM
I don't know whether to be more jealous of all this fine workmanship, or of your having the space to (presumably) store all the finished articles!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on November 08, 2023, 09:35:00 AM
I have a cave with storage built into my table.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vczhyrnT/IMG-1410.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vczhyrnT)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gxzMLSp3/IMG-1413.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxzMLSp3)

(https://i.postimg.cc/64ZPzybR/IMG-2152.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/64ZPzybR)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vcWjVxVw/IMG-2153.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vcWjVxVw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/56q70chx/IMG-5538.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56q70chx)

(https://i.postimg.cc/XBK8pFD2/IMG-5539.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBK8pFD2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/N2vDsbb9/IMG-5540.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N2vDsbb9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/nMqTRbcv/IMG-5541.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nMqTRbcv)

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Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on November 08, 2023, 10:51:56 AM
So now,I am well and truly jealous!  :D

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on November 15, 2023, 12:41:21 PM
Commissars house still being worked on so we put on a factory fight with some of the first terrain elements


(https://i.postimg.cc/7f8N3cRB/IMG-2228.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7f8N3cRB)

(https://i.postimg.cc/06QG5q6N/IMG-2229.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/06QG5q6N)

(https://i.postimg.cc/s1SYgm25/IMG-2231.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s1SYgm25)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QFSkrMdP/IMG-2235.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QFSkrMdP)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sGF5JQTB/IMG-2238.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sGF5JQTB)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SJhW29X3/IMG-2250.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJhW29X3)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on November 15, 2023, 01:16:22 PM
Nice to see it all in use.

You must have fun clearing up that loose rubble after the game!

Simon
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on November 15, 2023, 02:07:31 PM
Plastic sheet underneath and this baby to collect any errant bits

(https://i.postimg.cc/KKJsNgsv/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKJsNgsv)
Title: Re: Stalingrad terrain
Post by: Traffic on November 16, 2023, 04:55:17 PM
With one of Martin's nice sniper pairs, that I dropped testing the fit and now needs a repair job

(https://i.postimg.cc/DSrhXcKt/IMG-2260.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSrhXcKt)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9RnHh8Gq/IMG-2261.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RnHh8Gq)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RqWzRmB1/IMG-2262.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RqWzRmB1)

(https://i.postimg.cc/py3McSWw/IMG-2263.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/py3McSWw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/p55bXfZc/IMG-2264.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p55bXfZc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/GHYwWj9H/IMG-2265.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GHYwWj9H)