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Title: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: martin goddard on May 06, 2023, 06:24:30 PM
John, Miles and martin had a good day of fights at Entoyment.
We played 2 games

game 1 = Assault guards versus assault guards. Someone won  a small victory. Not sure who?
game 2= Assault guards v army. Assault guards won a  small victory.

We used the "dungeon" room. Lots of chaps dropped in, which was very nice.
Played from 9am to 5pm with plenty of tea breaks, browsing and chatting.

Marvellous

martin :)
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: martin goddard on May 06, 2023, 06:43:30 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/7bpPxKP3/dungeon-room.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bpPxKP3)

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Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Smoking gun on May 06, 2023, 07:50:04 PM
Hi Martin,
It looks like a nice table set up. Is that your Sicily mat?

Best wishes,
Martin Buck
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 06, 2023, 09:14:24 PM
Did you have a private gaming room too?

Simon
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: martin goddard on May 06, 2023, 09:29:50 PM
Yes martin it is the Sicily mat. I am using this type of mat for CK, SCW and Vietnam.  Probably too much  of a  same thing?
I really like the Sicily mat because it fades from green to sand.
The  surface texture is great too.

The room is at Entoyment and cost £30 for the whole day. Good value.

martin :)
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: John Watson on May 06, 2023, 11:54:36 PM
An excellent day and a great antidote to coronation fever.
1st battle saw miles and my Assault Guards win a moderate fight against Martin's Assault Guards.
2nd battle saw Martin and Miles Assault Guards  beat John's Republican Army in the very last assault of the game. The points difference was 9. The Republicans ran out of infantry to hold the central objective and had to rely on two armoured cars and two medium tanks to try to hold the objective. A last gasp pointless frontal assault (would Martin ever do something like that) by the Assault Guard's two bases of infantry push the Republican armour out of the objective.
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in the bodegas tonight.
John
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 07, 2023, 07:53:41 AM
A very good thank, thank you Martin and John for a good day.
By the way the Buildings do look very good ! LoL
2 very good games and both games were won with last go Assaults on Central objectives.
The 2 nd game was won with the added bonus of a MMG that quite sweeping an area, one of the squares was the central Objective. Even though Martin did criticise me originally keeping the MMG on this hill, it did pay off keeping it there, even though I was going to move it later in the game, glad I didn't !
This is a very Bloody game and uses up a lot of "Men" and materials
A good day of course a good looking Bring and Buy and as well.
Miles
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: martin goddard on May 07, 2023, 08:04:13 AM
The  Bayonet and ideology rules are nice and simple. This is partially due to the weapon types being all pretty similar.
I fancy playing some more of this soon.
I might even make a special scenery piece to gain 2 extra win points.


martin :)
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 07, 2023, 12:02:19 PM
Here are some of my pictures.
Showing the Aircraft bombing runs.
And assaults situations
"Those buildings really do look lovely!"
As everyone always says. Shame that someone doesn't make them ? If only a limited run ?
Maybe a Kickstart type of order style ? Take and pay for the orders before they are made ?
I would certainly by the whole range if they were made ?
Miles
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Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: martin goddard on May 07, 2023, 06:12:39 PM
Your pictures are really good Miles.
Who is that handsome chap?

martin :)
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 07, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
That was a nice-looking set-up - well done chaps.

Simon
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Sean Clark on May 09, 2023, 08:06:28 AM
Wonderful as ever.

Ava won her semi final 3:0 so is the final this Saturday against a team who have won every game all season. Wish her luck!

@Miles

Those buildings are by the Drum I believe. I have a load of them. As Martin will attest to, the moulds  are pretty rubbish these days. SHQ used to sell them. Might be worth a Google search.
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Panzer21 on May 09, 2023, 11:59:40 AM
The Drum Spanish Buildings

Not listed under SHQ current ranges.
TMP post suggests sold to Scotia Grendal who were hoping to release in 2020....
Not listed on SG website....

Neil
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Leslie BT on May 10, 2023, 10:50:58 AM
Sean all the best for Ava on Saturday, hope she and her team can manage a win!!
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 11, 2023, 04:16:30 PM
After Saturdays game I am determined to put a "rag tag Republican type army" together, using the British forces I used for the Crete game along with British Home guard figures and others. They may not be 100% accurate but they should look the part especially once I ve added some PP SCW figures proper. But for now it's what I have in my boxes. I've done a load of Head Swaps as well, so Pith Helmets, Berets, and other hats are in there too?
Also painting up a load of Scots which will be Raw (Territorial troops) for SB but will also make up a makeshift company for SCW for now ! Also included is a Naval company which could be my 4th company if needed ?
Like I said they may be a stretch of the imagination but for now will do.
Miles

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Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: martin goddard on May 11, 2023, 05:23:24 PM
It will do fine Miles.
Any guns and armour?


martin :)
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 11, 2023, 06:18:36 PM
From this distance they look fine, Miles!

Simon
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Sean Clark on May 12, 2023, 12:36:47 AM
Yep, I'd have no arguments Miles.
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 12, 2023, 03:32:26 AM
I ve got a French 75mm and the Italian 100mm. 2 mortars. I will be buying some tanks at some time ? Probably T26's as they are essentially a Vickers tank ! Not sure if I could get away with Lancaster A/C's ?
Miles
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: martin goddard on May 12, 2023, 07:41:25 AM
You would be fine with those Mies as the vehicles are under general headings.
The heaviest vehicle is a medium tank (T26) You could use a Vickers tank.
The Lanchester would be a light armoured car.



martin :)
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: John Watson on May 12, 2023, 09:48:57 AM
Depends which side you are. The Nationalists tended to use German and Italian equipment, so PZ I and CV 33 etc. The Republicans tended to use Russian stuff, so BT 5 and T26. Captured stuff would be used at times but I don't think either side had much by the way of field engineer depots to repair captured stuff, so I don't think the use of captured equipment was as common as it was in WWII.
One thing to remember was that the western powers, led by UK, France and USA, had a strict arms embargo in place, so virtually no British, American or French hardware was used in the War. The Republicans did have some French tanks, Renaults I think, but these were ones that the Spanish government had bought from the French prior to the start of the war. The embargo also meant that there would be no spares for any vehicle that broke down. As a result the Republicans were at a distinct disadvantage, especially towards the end of the war when the Russians stopped supplying the Republicans with hardware.
John
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 12, 2023, 02:58:33 PM
Steven Zaloga's "Spanish Civil War tanks" (Osprey) has:
- Schneider CA1 tanks being used by both sides (4 by Republicans in Madrid + 2 by Nationalists in Zaragoza)
- enough T26s were captured by the Nationalists to be fielded in mixed units with Panzer Is (in 1937, one T26 in each platoon, and one platoon in each company) as well as on their own e.g. in the Foreign Legion's tank unit
- captured T26s were rebuilt and repainted in a dedicated German-operated workshop in Cubas before being fielded alongside the Panzers
- captured BT-5s were incorporated into the Foreign Legion's tank unit
- UNL-35 and Blindado B.C. armoured cars were used by both sides

My takeaway is that, within the scope of the Bayonet & Ideology-sized battle, anything goes!

Simon
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: martin goddard on May 12, 2023, 05:31:25 PM
I am not too exercised if  players use non standard models if it gets them  to the table.


martin :)
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: John Watson on May 12, 2023, 05:45:44 PM
Simon, your source and mine evidently take different slants on the same info. I bow to yours though as my source was a political rather than military history. I hadn't included armoured cars as they were widely used on both sides.
john
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 12, 2023, 08:02:18 PM
Well as the international brigade was Republican I will use Russian stuff as I buy it. But for now I might use what early war  British desert or France I have. And class them as appropriate !
I noticed that the French WW1 tank has been mentioned in use for both sides ?
Miles
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Smoking gun on May 12, 2023, 08:45:14 PM
Miles,
Renault FT17s were used by both sides, I don't have my books to hand but I believe there was  around 10 in Spain at the start of the war, 5 for each side. The republicans bought some more from Poland.Martin

Zvezda make nice kits of the T26, BT5 and BA10 armoured car (later turret than the BA6 used in Spain but close enough for most people or use the turrent off the tanks).

I hope that helps and best wishes,
Martin Buck
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 12, 2023, 10:31:20 PM
My Osprey Zaloga book says that in the Summer of 1936, the Republicans had 9 Renault FTs (and one Fiat 3000-A, an Italian copy of the FT17), and the Nationalists had 6.

Simon
Title: Re: SCW day at Entoyment 6th May 2023
Post by: Sean Clark on May 13, 2023, 12:15:23 AM
Good info Simon.

So long as things look 'about' right, I'll always be happy to entertain someone with a game. Especially in the SCW which doesn't get played enough at my club.