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Rules => Civil War Battles => Topic started by: Moggy on May 12, 2022, 04:43:55 PM

Title: Assaulters status where the defender has avoided the charge and withdrawn
Post by: Moggy on May 12, 2022, 04:43:55 PM
I am currently trying to work through the rules solo (first time without someone knowing what they are doing with the rules) and hit a stumbling block and not sure if it is me or unclear rules.

The situation is an Infantry Brigade has assaulted a lone gun battery behind a fenceline.  The gun has fired cannister and inflicted 1 casualty and decided to withdraw which is achieved.

Rules then state (top of page 98) The assaulting infantry :

*  Stop at initial enemy position.   No probs with this, they stop other side of the fence.

*  "The assaulter becomes disordered unless mounted cavalry" - The assaulter is infantry so should be disordered.

*  Assaulter may not contact with any unit" - No probs with this.

*  "The assaulter is not disorganised" - ?  What is Disorganised - can only assume means disordered.

Bullet point 2 says they are disordered and point 4 says they are not disordered. Which should it be?

Apart from this things seem reasonably fine so far.

Only thing is I keep forgetting the re-rolls on 1-3 for various units. :)  AT least I have kept things n a par for both sides for the same number of turns.

Derek
Title: Re: Assaulters status where the defender has avoided the charge and withdrawn
Post by: martin goddard on May 12, 2022, 05:11:25 PM
That has got to be one of the longest titles Derek.  Congratulations
I expect an answer to appear here forthwith.

martin :)
Title: Re: Assaulters status where the defender has avoided the charge and withdrawn
Post by: Moggy on May 13, 2022, 02:35:14 PM
Finished the game with a small (12 point win) for the union. Would have been more excepting for the countdown.

Bloody wasn't the word for it. 5 falter tests during the game and not a single one went in. Left troops very exposed. No piccies due to only 1 army being completely painted etc. Union troops had to do with some Arab mounted bases as commanders and cavalry. Perhaps thats what they needed during the mid-war in the East lol.

No takers for my opening question yet?  For the sake of this game I have treated it that at the end of a charge any unit would be disordered.

Derek
Title: Re: Assaulters status where the defender has avoided the charge and withdrawn
Post by: martin goddard on May 13, 2022, 07:17:51 PM
I will make sure I get an answer to you on Sunday after church. Unless someone already has.  Stewart and John are very knowledgeable about CWB.

Today I have been fitting a toilet down in Devon. Bad omen for Crete.
Tomorrow I am invading Crete.

It's tough in the trenches.


martin :)
Title: Re: Assaulters status where the defender has avoided the charge and withdrawn
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 13, 2022, 07:34:53 PM
Martin,

You're supposed to be defending (although I guess it's a matter of perspective...).

Or you could join forces with Stewart and gang up on Richard in his foxhole?

Simon
Title: Re: Assaulters status where the defender has avoided the charge and withdrawn
Post by: martin goddard on May 13, 2022, 07:41:21 PM
Defending you say. I can learn that I am sure.... ::)

Found my Fat Frank roads and soem nicely coloured base sheets

martin :)
Title: Re: Assaulters status where the defender has avoided the charge and withdrawn
Post by: Forst22 on May 14, 2022, 08:49:36 AM
My pencil notes, on the rules scrubbed the point 4, so I would have played it so the foot attackers stop at the fence line disordered.

Only Cavalry are not disordered in such circumstances, presumably because they never build up speed before the enemy withdraws?

I assume the infantry do pickup the pace, and thus the lines become ragged.

As the defender basically misses a turn , if the attacker is not disordered it's all to easy for them to just keep going which doesn't feel right?I

Any one know any better?

Title: Re: Assaulters status where the defender has avoided the charge and withdrawn
Post by: Moggy on May 14, 2022, 09:09:10 AM
That was my thought in a nutshell

Derek
Title: Re: Assaulters status where the defender has avoided the charge and withdrawn
Post by: Sean Clark on June 23, 2022, 06:06:23 PM
Catching up on some threads...

Derek, I think you had it right. I have always played they are disordered from the urgency of their charge forward to take the position.