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Rules => Civil War Battles => Topic started by: Wardy64 on April 09, 2022, 09:01:13 AM

Title: CWB Army
Post by: Wardy64 on April 09, 2022, 09:01:13 AM
How many figures would be needed and what would be the composition of a standard army to field a force for CWB? Interested as we have never played this before.

David & Ben
Title: Re: CWB Army
Post by: sukhe_bator (Neil) on April 09, 2022, 10:13:58 AM
I can't speak to the rules but this is the historical basis;
  The regiment was the basic manoeuvre unit of the Civil War. They were recruited from among the eligible citizenry of one or more nearby counties and usually consisted of 1,000 men when first organized. The attrition of disease, combat, and desertion would rapidly reduce this number. Replacements were exceedingly rare for both sides--it was more typical for an entirely new regiment to be raised instead. Regiments were usually led by colonels. (Much like in the English Civil War).
  Two or more regiments would be organized into a brigade. Note that it was uncommon for the branches of the army--infantry, cavalry, and artillery--to be mixed within a brigade. A typical brigade would consist of between three and five regiments and be led by a brigadier general.
  Two or more brigades would be organized into a division. Divisions tended to be slightly smaller in the Union army--usually two or three brigades.  Confederate divisions could include as many as five or six brigades. Divisions were led by major generals.
  Two or more divisions would be organized into a corps. A corps typically included infantry, cavalry, and artillery units, the idea being that a corps was a formation that could conduct independent operations.
  Two or more corps would be organized into an army. It is commonly assumed that there was only one army per nation, but in fact both nations had multiple armies in the field.  The most well-known Confederate armies are the Army of Northern Virginia, led by Robert E. Lee for most of the war, and the Army of Tennessee, which had a string of different commanders. The Union Army of the Potomac was Lee's primary opponent, while the Army of the Cumberland and Army of the Ohio operated out west, among others. At the corps and army level, leadership would usually be determined by seniority among the available major generals, or by intervention from Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis.

Hope this helps with the theory at least and in choice of army and uniforms :)
Happy gaming
Neil
Title: Re: CWB Army
Post by: Stewart 46A on April 09, 2022, 11:23:38 AM
Morning Dave
1 C in C
3 Divisional Generals

Infantry
14 units of 6 bases

Cavalry
3 mounted units of 3 bases + same on foot

Artillery
8 guns + crew
You may want a mix of light , rifled and smooth boar guns

Also casualties and  1/2 bases

This should allow to field early, mid or late war army lists from the rule book


Stewart

Title: Re: CWB Army
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on April 09, 2022, 11:43:28 AM
5-7 bases per usual unit, with 3-4 figures usually each. Raw sometimes 5, rough looking scallywags !(as theses are effectively milita) Especially if Confederate. Some Pirate figures with bare feet can look good, the odd blunderbus anything that might make the odd base look non standard etc.
Veteran can have 4 as they might look organised and well drilled etc.
Out of this one base will be a command base. Usually 4 figures and up to 2 flags(especially Union. State and unit flags) Officer (mounted or not depend if early war mainly ) Drummer and or Bugler, maybe a Senior Sargent type. Depends on how you want to arrange these. I usually put 4 figures, as my force is Union. Usually Officer, Musician and flags.
All the above are only suggestions in the added extras etc. Depends on how much time you want to spend painting them etc.
The usual Force would consist of something like this : 600 points is the usual force points.
4 points for raw musket. 6 points raw rifle. 6 points Ave musket. 10 points ave rifle. 15 points vet rifle.
Maybe 3 Raw Brigades, some Musket and maybe one rifle.
4-5 Average Brigade with Rifles.
1-3 Veteran brigade with Rifles.
3-5 cannons smoothbores and rifled.(one gun and four crew per base)
Optional 1-2 Cavalry units (3 figures on a base de mounted. 2-3 Horses mounted)usually 4 bases including one Command base.
Plus 3 General(command) bases usually 3-4 figures each, some might be mounted
This is gives you a rough idea how figures you would be needing
Obviously you need the CWB rule book with the forces make up in the reference section of the book.
As particular forces do have plus and minuses and other extra bits not listed here.
Plus causality bases and other usual bits.
Miles
Title: Re: CWB Army
Post by: Camulogene on April 09, 2022, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: Stewart 46A on April 09, 2022, 11:23:38 AM
You may want a mix of light , rifled and smooth boar

Is Peter Pig a smooth boar?...

Pierre
Title: Re: CWB Army
Post by: Wardy64 on April 09, 2022, 12:16:33 PM
Spot on chaps - thank you for the info.

D&B
Title: Re: CWB Army
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on April 09, 2022, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: Camulogene on April 09, 2022, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: Stewart 46A on April 09, 2022, 11:23:38 AM
You may want a mix of light , rifled and smooth boar

Is Peter Pig a smooth boar?...

Pierre

Very good, Pierre!  ;D

Simon
Title: Re: CWB Army
Post by: martin goddard on April 09, 2022, 01:27:43 PM
Well, maybe not smooth?

martin :)
Title: Re: CWB Army
Post by: Wardy64 on April 09, 2022, 02:40:38 PM
I doubt that Julian.

D&B
Title: Re: CWB Army
Post by: sukhe_bator (Neil) on April 09, 2022, 05:23:37 PM
Aren't you sick of Pierre hogging all the bacon jokes by now?!