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Title: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Commander Klank on July 06, 2021, 07:41:26 PM
CSS Virginia II was a Confederate Navy steam-powered ironclad ram laid down in 1862 at the William Graves' shipyard in Richmond, Virginia.The Virginia II was named after the more famous Confederate ironclad, CSS Virginia, also called the Merrimack because of the ship's origins as a Union frigate. The original Virginia's success at the Battle of Hampton Roads caused "gunboat associations" to emerge around the South, mainly driven by women; their efforts helped with the construction of the Virginia II.

Virginia II went into action on June 21, 1864 as the flagship of Commodore John K. Mitchell, CSN, during the engagement between the Confederate James River Squadron and Federal ships in Trent's Reach. The Virginia II formed a fleet with two other Confederate ironclads the CSS Richmond and the CSS Fredericksburg. The Virginia II saw action against various Union forts and ships including the Canonicus-class monitor, USS Saugus and the powerful double turreted monitor USS Onondaga (two different fights). While fighting the USS Onondaga the Virgina II suffered serious damage and was sent to Richmond for repairs. Her repairs had just been completed when Virginia II and the other Confederate warships of the James River Squadron were ordered destroyed by squadron commander Admiral Raphael Semmes to prevent their capture by rapidly advancing Union forces during the evacuation and fall of Richmond on April 3, 1865.

HI Game stats...

CSS Virginia II

Armor: ironclad

Hit points: 30 (battered @ 10)

Guns: front 1XHp, side 2XH, aft 1XHp

Ram (R)

Points Cost: 1432
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Commander Klank on July 06, 2021, 07:45:55 PM
Oh and the CSS Virginia II looks similar to the CSS Fredericksburg or the CSS Texas... :D
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Sean Clark on July 06, 2021, 08:22:39 PM
Nice work Commander Clank!
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Leman (Andy) on July 07, 2021, 08:53:31 AM
None of those appear to be in the PP range, although the Richmond is. Does the Virginia II bear a resemblance to any others in the range?
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: martin goddard on July 07, 2021, 09:46:53 AM
Some interesting  stuff there .

(https://i.postimg.cc/jLGB53d1/HNKL-CSS-Virginia-II-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jLGB53d1)


Try HI number 34 Tennessee. That is the right shape but I have not checked the length.

One advantage of HI is that it gives the formula for working out ship costs as Terry has shown to good effect.  Thanks Terry


martin :)
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Leman (Andy) on July 08, 2021, 10:30:13 AM
Thanks Martin.
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Commander Klank on July 08, 2021, 10:43:11 AM
Yes, that's the look. I 3d printed a Virginia II 1/600 model for a 3D designer. Is it alright I post it here?
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Commander Klank on July 08, 2021, 10:44:21 AM
Oh and it's Jerry... ;D :D
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: martin goddard on July 08, 2021, 01:11:17 PM
Sorry Jerry :(
Yes do please post  the 3d stuff here.

All interesting Jerry


martin :)
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Commander Klank on July 08, 2021, 11:36:40 PM
Here is the Virginia class ironclads... the CSS Virginia and the CSS Virginia II. Both are armored rams. The Virginia is Peter Pig, the Virginia II is a 3D print from East Coast Ironclads on 3D Wargame.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sQ7k17nH/Ironclads-007.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQ7k17nH)

If you look at the true gun port layout on the Virgina II for it's fore and aft pivot guns; these two guns could not fire true broadside; they covered the entire front and rear arches of fire of the ship. In other words Virginia II could fire (only) 1 heavy gun at any 4 facings :o. It's obvious her most dangerous weapon is her ram mounted on a very stout ship. Here's an example...

(https://i.postimg.cc/svzqXBC1/Virginia-2-fire-arch.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svzqXBC1) Someone's going to get rammed next turn if the order cards and intuitive rolls work out. ;D
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Commander Klank on July 08, 2021, 11:42:25 PM
Here's my Confederate ironclad monsters... the two Virginias, the CSS Fredricksbugh, and the huge ironclad CSS Louisiana. Like the Virginia II the Louisiana is 3D printed.

 
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0Lt6Pc6/Ironclads-010.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0Lt6Pc6)
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: martin goddard on July 09, 2021, 08:03:29 AM
Jerry they have come out really well.
The subtle metal and pale wood are great.
I will have to pop round to your house for a game sometime?
Those 3D are good. I assume they are strong/flexible too?


martin :)
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on July 09, 2021, 08:21:45 AM
Very nicely done. I need to find time to paint up my fleet....

Simon
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: martin goddard on July 09, 2021, 09:53:14 AM
My view is that the pale deck sets off the darker metal nicely.
I am an art critic in the making.
These paint schemes speak to me about the contrast of ..........


martin ::)
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Commander Klank on July 09, 2021, 03:28:54 PM
the iron armor on these is base coat black with various grays brushed on starting with German gray and then dry brushing lighter grays over each other. Then I give the ship a good brown wash. I read where some of the smaller Confederate ironclads were painted a "robin egg blue" color. This would fade quickly in the southern sun and the grime from the stack soot son turned them a dark gray/black. Some even had pig lard smeared over the armor (I kid you not) to help deflect shots.
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Smoking gun on July 09, 2021, 09:37:13 PM
Quote from: martin goddard on July 09, 2021, 09:53:14 AM
My view is that the pale deck sets off the darker metal nicely.
I am an art critic in the making.
These paint schemes speak to me about the contrast of ..........


martin ::)
....the surrealism of the underlying metaphor and.......😉

Best wishes,
Martin Buck
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: martin goddard on July 10, 2021, 08:26:43 AM
Agreed Martin
we are on a journey.


martin ::)
Title: Re: CSS Virginia II game stats
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on July 10, 2021, 09:29:09 AM
A road to nowhere?  ;D

Simon