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Rules => Hammerin' Iron => Topic started by: martin goddard on May 08, 2021, 06:25:13 PM

Title: Onandaga
Post by: martin goddard on May 08, 2021, 06:25:13 PM
We have just brought out an updated version of the double turreted Onandaga model.
The old one was resin with metal components.
Made over 20 years ago.

The new one has more parts, but I think is a much better model

(https://i.imgur.com/RhPbhDa.jpeg)

martin :)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Stewart 46A on May 08, 2021, 06:44:58 PM
Nice looking Model

Stewart
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Leslie BT on May 08, 2021, 06:54:21 PM
A really great looking model Martin, it looks like it has been 3D printed.

(https://i.imgur.com/RhPbhDa.jpeg)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Sean Clark on May 08, 2021, 08:45:31 PM
I'll add it to my next order. Not sure I've got the original.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 08, 2021, 08:49:11 PM
Quote from: Leslie BT on May 08, 2021, 06:54:21 PM
A really great looking model Martin, it looks like it has been 3D printed.

It's better than that!

Simon
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: martin goddard on May 08, 2021, 09:48:34 PM
Thanks for sorting the picture.


martin :)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Sean Clark on May 08, 2021, 10:41:47 PM
It really is a super looking model.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Administrator on May 09, 2021, 07:59:36 AM
Fixed original image
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: martin goddard on May 09, 2021, 08:07:41 AM
Thanks for all
martin :)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Leman (Andy) on May 09, 2021, 12:59:43 PM
That does look to be a really nice model.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Sean Clark on May 13, 2021, 02:21:02 PM
I have recieved my Onandaga. It will be painted tonight as I am a guest on the Storm and Steel YouTube live stream paint and chat tonight.

If you're free why not tune in and join the conversation?

https://youtu.be/uSUKQqlBnkY (https://youtu.be/uSUKQqlBnkY)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 13, 2021, 03:34:37 PM
19:30 BST I see - I will join if I can. Thanks Sean - it's very nice to have our own celebrity / wargames influencer (is that a term? I think it may well be now!) here :)

Simon
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Sean Clark on May 13, 2021, 04:44:07 PM

i'm not so sure about that, but Alex's channel is great and he plays mostly in 15mm so good for the scale.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 14, 2021, 03:45:41 AM
Must get back into HI as I have an uncompleted fort to make. Also a Depot ship and some other "targets" to finish as well.
Maybe later this year might have a "HammerIron" Day at Entoyment, as there seems to be interest in the game from outside sources looking at Entoyment's FB pages.
How many have a "fleet" to take to Entoyment ? If we were to organise a game day ?
I have a reasonably big Union Fleet, just lacking a 3 Hex fort as mentioned above. Also the 4 ships "in dock" to be a target.
Miles
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 14, 2021, 06:48:12 AM
Quote from: Sean Clark on May 13, 2021, 02:21:02 PM
I have recieved my Onandaga. It will be painted tonight as I am a guest on the Storm and Steel YouTube live stream paint and chat tonight.

If you're free why not tune in and join the conversation?

https://youtu.be/uSUKQqlBnkY (https://youtu.be/uSUKQqlBnkY)

It was nice to hear your dulcet tones, Sean.

However, I missed the promised painting session - can I have my money back, please?

Simon
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Sean Clark on May 14, 2021, 06:54:46 AM
Miles

I have enough for each side and a few left over. I usually use spare ships as the targets, but I may try and make some barges or similar.

I'd love a HI day... Think it would be a great idea.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: John Watson on May 14, 2021, 08:31:00 AM
I have some of each. I bought Martin's pre-packed Union and Confederates and have added a few ships since. I also have the river mat. What I lack is the extras like sand banks and islands.
John
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Sean Clark on May 14, 2021, 08:37:40 AM
John I have just used suitable coloured felt. I really ought to make something to look a bit nicer.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: John in York on May 14, 2021, 08:48:15 AM
I used coloured felt as well. I've no plans to change that at the moment. Too many other things to do !
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: martin goddard on May 14, 2021, 12:06:11 PM
I would love  a Hammerin' Iron day.  Great idea. Righteous. :o
I suggest it would be a selection of scenarios from easy to challenging.
Different scenarios would give/yield  different victory points.

?


martin :-\

Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Sean Clark on May 14, 2021, 12:17:24 PM
The new Onandaga, painted last night.

(https://i.postimg.cc/dkfG3VM4/IMG-20210514-121607.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkfG3VM4)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: martin goddard on May 14, 2021, 12:35:37 PM
That is lovely Sean.
It is a shame that it does not allow more bright colours but the metal effect is brooding and powerful.
It would have been great if the ACW ships were in reds and blues but they missed that trick.

Did the vents go into the hull OK? I thought they might be a bit too fiddly.


martin  :)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Leslie BT on May 14, 2021, 12:39:25 PM
Looks very good Sean, you must have sat up late to get it painted after the online discussion.

Do you have some flags to go on it?
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 14, 2021, 12:53:23 PM
That is nice, Sean - and Les got his thoughts in before me!

Simon
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Sean Clark on May 14, 2021, 02:16:05 PM
A flag is a good idea. I'll dig around gor one. It will brighten it up.

Martin,

The model went together very well. A blob of odourless super glue on a 2p piece, a bit of wire in an old cork and it was a breeze. I just can't remember where I saw this method before. Must have been some genius or other  ;D
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on May 14, 2021, 08:03:03 PM
Very nice Sean, and a lovely podcast and chat with Storm.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 14, 2021, 08:40:17 PM
A Lt of those ships had different colours on the bridge and smoke stack to signify certain class and names etc. Would introduce a wee bit of=f colour ? Possibly
Miles
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: martin goddard on May 14, 2021, 10:15:42 PM
Nice job Sean. This topic will incresae sales of Onandaga.


martin :)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Leman (Andy) on May 15, 2021, 10:36:21 AM
Great job on that one Sean. The little patches of rust are particularly effective.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Sean Clark on May 15, 2021, 11:32:24 AM
Thank you all.

Thanks Ben, for the comments about the live chat.

Miles, I think you're right. I'll do some research. If I can find a suitable flag I'll be adding that as well.

Leman, the rust is one of those powder things. I think it went on a bit too much but I'm happy with it for a first try.

Maybe a couple of davits would improve the look too. Pictures of the original show it may have had them.

Martin,

I expect this ship to become a huge seller now that I have painted it. It may even win a Golden Demon or Silver Frog or something.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 15, 2021, 12:36:13 PM
Must admit, all this HI talk, I think I will have to revisit what I have get on with some more models.
So a third Gaming day to include HI needs to be organised.
I think one thing we can do is have multiple games on the day, rather than the usual 2 ? 3-4 games over a day ? As I think most people would agree that the games are generally shorter than a typical CWB or PBI game say ?
Miles
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 15, 2021, 12:40:24 PM
That sounds good, Miles.

I have quite a few models assembled and primed - the prospect of a games day might provide the impetus to finally paint them.

Simon
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 21, 2021, 03:01:11 PM
Found this, this might help explain and show what an Ironclad would look like.
Miles
(https://i.postimg.cc/s19nbbyJ/48344413-32-D4-4145-B04-D-768-CAF1-E9832.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s19nbbyJ)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on May 21, 2021, 05:17:12 PM
That's helpful, Miles. I've made a few half-hearted attempts to research colours online, with little success.

Another thing I need to get around to...

Simon
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 21, 2021, 05:20:09 PM
I collect images over the years, as I was looking up some of the old events and game pictures I found my folder with ACW ships. The above one the best to show, how colours and even boats were put the ships.
Miles
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Leman (Andy) on May 22, 2021, 09:58:07 AM
I seem to have resolved the McAfee problem by having an educated guess at a bit of Dutch instruction and getting it right. Great photo of those ships.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Commander Klank on May 29, 2021, 12:05:21 PM
great model... the Onandaga was a beast of a monitor and saw combat along the James River.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: martin goddard on May 29, 2021, 04:07:05 PM
thanks!
I would like to add to the Hi range if I get time.


martin :)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Leman (Andy) on May 31, 2021, 10:38:29 AM
I would add that to my HI collection. would like to try some of the eastern theatre riverine warfare.
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Hman on May 31, 2021, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: Smiley Miley 66 on May 21, 2021, 03:01:11 PM
Found this, this might help explain and show what an Ironclad would look like.
Miles
(https://i.postimg.cc/s19nbbyJ/48344413-32-D4-4145-B04-D-768-CAF1-E9832.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s19nbbyJ)

I freely admit I know nothing about Ironclads, but wouldn't the boats and railings get damaged as soon as she opens fire?
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 31, 2021, 01:59:49 PM
They did "stow away " a lot of the bits before they sailed. The make biv wack type canopies for the night time so the crew can sleep up on deck, that's while they are tide up next to the shore.
Miles
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: martin goddard on May 31, 2021, 02:04:18 PM
You are right Howard.
Boats would be towed  and all the awning framework would not be seen whenever action was proposed.
Many of the funnels were telescopic too.
For playing HI none of the frames would be present and no awnings raised (even on the turret tops) . Obviously the photos with awnings are not when battle is happening or promised

martin  :)

Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Hman on May 31, 2021, 04:36:23 PM
Oh they are to hold up Awnings for the crew to sleep under... like I said I know nothing about Iron Clads... :-[  ;D

I do know other stuff honest... 

Howard
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: martin goddard on May 31, 2021, 05:14:45 PM
Not so much for sleeping but in keeping the southern heat off the men and metal.  Ouch that's hot.


martin :)
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on May 31, 2021, 06:38:45 PM
On some of the ships they would have normal wheeled artillery pieces as defence. When moored up in the evenings.
Miles
Title: Re: Onandaga
Post by: Commander Klank on July 06, 2021, 07:57:23 PM
I love this ship. It saw a lot of action on the James River and Hampton Roads. While it mostly fought Confederate gun positions (forts in our game) it did fight several Confederate ironclads including the CSS Virginia II of which it's 15 inch smooth bore and 8 inch rifled guns (one of each in each of the two turrets) inflicted substantial damage to.   
(https://i.postimg.cc/5X9JktNH/USS-Onondaga-100990.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5X9JktNH)