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Rules => Mexican Revolution => Topic started by: martin goddard on September 12, 2020, 11:06:26 AM

Title: Rules title
Post by: martin goddard on September 12, 2020, 11:06:26 AM
If there is going to be a set of mexrev rules they will have a title.
The overall title will be "Mexican Revolution 1910-1920"
The sub title might be one of the following.
This method of titling will be copied by all rule publishers soon.

Whilst the chosen title is not a democratic decision (martin is Heurta) input is still valued.
This time I wish to get away from an "xxxx and  xxxxxx" title. Also no amusing title.


Here is the list of choices.

Battle after battle  (Lots of battles in this war)
Everyone dies (reference to the death of all the leaders)
Sombrero (The headwear of the revolutionaries)
Ten big men (reference to the main leaders)
It tolls for thee (reference to the John Donne writing)
Men with guns (everyone has a gun)
Muerte (Death)
Dead men (Outcome and reference to dead leaders, see above)
Ten thousand rifles (consideration of the numbers involved)
Great expectations (double reference. Great for search hits)
Die fighting (reference to Zapata saying)
Land and liberty (reference to Zapata demands)
Die on your feet (reference to Zapata saying)
Zapata (most famous man in the war?)
Guns and horses ( general description)
Ten years (length of wars)


martin
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 12, 2020, 11:11:47 AM
"Die on Your Feet" is quite distinctive, and could also refer to players standing around the table while their little lead men bite the tabletop dust?

The reference could be picked up on  and the metaphor extended within the body (pun not intentional or necessary) of the rules too?

Simon
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Nick on September 12, 2020, 11:37:25 AM
I quite like "Sombrero" for its simplicity, but I suspect a more eye catching title like "Die on your feet" might attract more attention from others less familiar with RFCM rulesets.

Nick
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Grey Heron on September 12, 2020, 11:51:02 AM
"Land and Liberty" sounds good. Some good title suggestions mentioned.

Cheers,

Helen
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Moggy on September 12, 2020, 12:06:42 PM
If you can't fight wear a big hat.


Showing my age now  :)

Derek (Mog)
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Andoreth on September 12, 2020, 12:08:57 PM
"No peace for the Government", taken from a Zapata quotation "If there is no justice for the people, there is no peace for the government".

Andrew
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: John Watson on September 12, 2020, 04:00:20 PM
I quite like "A Fistful of Dynamite" and "Villa rides", but not sure if there would be any copyright issues.
Sadly "The Rules with no name" has already been done.
"Ey Gringo" may offend some PC people.
"Montezuma's revenge" might confuse people as to the era.
I think the rules should be flagged up as the "Refried Bean edition".
John
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: shedman on September 12, 2020, 04:02:39 PM
Die Fighting is a set of rules for the Horse & Musket period by Bob Jones.

An interesting set of rules were each side has a finite number of dice per game

Basically when you run out of dice it is game over

Here is a review https://scottmingus.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/die-fighting-new-gaming-rules-set-for-the-horse-musket-period/ (https://scottmingus.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/die-fighting-new-gaming-rules-set-for-the-horse-musket-period/)

I've played them twice

Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Antioch (Bob) on September 12, 2020, 04:06:05 PM
Día de Muertos.....  which is Day if the dead.. Named for the holiday where all who have passed are honoured by there families.

Celebrated in Mexico & US southern States... I found out how big the Holiday was one year when I had booked a hotel in Tucson... only to find I had to wait as several hundred thousand people (according to the highway patrol officer) were walking across the intersection I needed to use. Eventually made it a number if hours later.

Bob
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: John Watson on September 12, 2020, 04:07:36 PM
I have a Dia de Mortes (or however it is spelt) t shirt already, so good to go!
John
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Panzer21 on September 12, 2020, 04:52:28 PM
Tierra y Libertad o Muerte

Neil
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: agamemnon on September 12, 2020, 06:30:25 PM
'Viva Villa!'...or...'La Cucaracha'
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: John Watson on September 12, 2020, 11:43:06 PM
"Ay Caramba!"
John
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 13, 2020, 10:20:50 AM
"The Corona version"?
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Leslie BT on September 13, 2020, 07:24:59 PM
Why name them after a beer, no matter how good that beer may be????????????
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Stewart 46A on September 13, 2020, 07:37:31 PM
Can't be a good beer, they named a virus after it.

Stewart
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: sjwalker51 on September 13, 2020, 07:58:57 PM
Think I'd go for "Viva Zapata!" - immediately recognisable to anyone with even a passing interest in the MexRev
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 13, 2020, 08:28:32 PM
Quote from: Leslie BT on September 13, 2020, 07:24:59 PM
Why name them after a beer, no mater how good that beer may be????????????
I think it could be about understanding your core audience?  :)

Simon
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: alang on September 15, 2020, 08:23:13 AM
Not relevant but I keep thinking of a silly song that was in a cartoon my youngest sister used to watch many years ago.  Cannot recall all the lyrics but the chorus refrain was " And the Mexicans Dance on their Hats!".  Alan
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: John Watson on September 15, 2020, 08:31:57 AM
Also check out Tom Lehrer's "In Old Mexico" - very funny.
John
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Mike6t3 on September 15, 2020, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: alang on September 15, 2020, 08:23:13 AM
Not relevant but I keep thinking of a silly song that was in a cartoon my youngest sister used to watch many years ago.  Cannot recall all the lyrics but the chorus refrain was " And the Mexicans Dance on their Hats!".  Alan

Maybe "The Mexican Hat Dance" by Allan Sherman. You can find it on you tube.

Oh Americans dance on a dance floor
And the Spaniards, they dance on a table
And the Russians, they dance on a saber
But the Mexicans dance on their hats


Enjoy 😁

Mike
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: martin goddard on September 19, 2020, 07:54:07 PM
Battles for Mexico.  BFM, Shame the acronym cannot be BIFFO.
Suggestions with which to make up BIFFO?


martin :)
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Smoking gun on September 19, 2020, 08:46:51 PM
I can't manage BIFFO, all I have managed to come up with is the very juvenile Battles Under Mexican Skies. Sorry.

Best wishes,
Martin Buck
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: martin goddard on September 19, 2020, 09:39:42 PM
Think that is not RFCM Martin. :)
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: pbeccas (Paul) on September 20, 2020, 08:35:14 AM
The Mex civil war is known as the Years of Noose and Knife.  YNK
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Panzer21 on September 20, 2020, 08:38:03 AM
Brave If Facing Federales Only

Battles In Fever Fields Oaxaca

Bullets, Indians, Federales, Furious Operations

Bravos, Indians, Fighting For Overthrow

Battling Intensely For Federale Overthrow

Bravos, Indians, Federales, Finally Obregon
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: martin goddard on September 20, 2020, 05:35:31 PM
Neil
Those are good


martin :)
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Leslie BT on September 20, 2020, 06:22:58 PM
Neil's title will fill the cover.

Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Panzer21 on September 23, 2020, 07:41:46 AM
How about something really simple "Revolucion!"

Neil
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 23, 2020, 08:02:56 AM
Nah - that would be too... ... revolutionary :)

Simon
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Leslie BT on September 23, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
Should be simple.

Zapata or Pancho Villa.
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 23, 2020, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: Leslie BT on September 23, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
Should be simple.

Zapata or Pancho Villa.

They may have trademarked their names, like Lionel Messi?
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Camulogene on September 23, 2020, 12:23:17 PM
If you want big sales, how about: "Blood On Oaxaca Big Sierra" ?...
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: John Watson on September 23, 2020, 03:08:02 PM
Why would you want to call Mexican Revolutionary rules "Lionel Messi"?
John
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: martin goddard on September 23, 2020, 03:26:54 PM
That would be silly,  Ben Messi?

martin :)
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: Panzer21 on September 24, 2020, 04:27:58 PM
"Bullets and Burritos"

"Bullets and Bandittos"

"Fusils y Carabinas"

"Un Gallop Terrific"

Neil
Title: Re: Rules title
Post by: martin goddard on September 24, 2020, 07:35:26 PM
Hello Neil
I like the gallop one


martin :)