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Rules => Pieces of Eight => Topic started by: martin goddard on July 28, 2018, 01:57:25 PM

Title: POE facts of life
Post by: martin goddard on July 28, 2018, 01:57:25 PM
Just a few facts about  POE at the moment (!).


THE HEXAGON
In inches (cm).
Face to face= 4 inches/10.1 cm
Length of face= 2.3 inches/5.8cm
Corner to corner (inscribed circle diameter)=4.6 inches/11.7cm
Centre hex to next hex centre =4 inches/10.2 cms.


SHIP MODELS
In a game . minimum =5 maximum = 9

THE TABLE
44 hexagon perimeter.

NUMBER OF D6
16 per player. If you need more then re-use.

RELEASE DATE OF POE
February 2019(?)




Interesting?  Maybe there should be  a test at the end of each PP ruleset.  It would count toward a national mathematical qualification. PPMQ level 1.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on July 29, 2018, 08:15:06 AM
This kind of thing is also a useful summary for playtesters (just in case things have changed - I believe this can happen sometimes....) and for those following from afar who are interested in seeing how the new game is progressing.

Probably worth pointing out too (as highlighted in Duncan's recent and excellent test game write-up) that the "5 to 9 ships in a game" are - unlike most of the RFCM rules - not necessarily a "fixed" force (i.e. ships can be upgraded / downgraded / added to rather than the normal depletion type of change), so players will need to produce a few extra vessels in case this sort of pre-game event affects them.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Stewart 46A on July 29, 2018, 08:28:40 AM
Agree Simon, I have  fleet of 16 being built, 2 large, 3 medium, 3 small merchant ship,
1 large, 2 medium, 5 small warships.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on July 29, 2018, 08:46:16 AM
And very jealous I am of them too, seeing the progress pictures Lluis has been posting!
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Leslie BT on July 29, 2018, 01:48:14 PM
busy building my stuff, 1 sloop, 1 schonner, 2 Medium warships, i large warship. And 2 large merchant, 3 small merchant, 3 medium merchants.
All on bases with rowing boats towed behind.
Starting on the markers and the cloth has arrived.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Duncan on July 29, 2018, 01:55:48 PM
I was tempted to put rowing boats on behind but I don't  have enough. I guess I could get some more though? Seems like a good idea.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on July 29, 2018, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: Leslie BT on July 29, 2018, 01:48:14 PM
busy building my stuff, 1 sloop, 1 schonner, 2 Medium warships, i large warship. And 2 large merchant, 3 small merchant, 3 medium merchants.
All on bases with rowing boats towed behind.

Where are the pictures, Les - I'm sure these are lovely?
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on July 30, 2018, 05:07:15 AM
Building:
Pirates, 1 x Large Warship. 2 Large ish warships, 1 medium Warship and 1 small warship.
Royal navy, 1 x Large Warship and 1 sloop.
Plus 4/5 small Brigs and sloops and HMS Victory !
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Duncan on July 30, 2018, 07:13:35 AM
As annoying as it is for those of us with a large and medium warship or eight I have in all my games so far never had the opportunity to use one, the pre game selections putting pay to that! 😭😢
I have found what is needed is about five or even six small ships like sloop etc to act as small warships! Then three medium merchants, three small merchants and two large merchants.
I just think it is worth saying that given my experience for those building large warfleets. Having said that if you are like me you will not care and will buildcwhat you want and like.
I will get to use my three large warships at some point I am certain of that, possibly not in the same game i am just not sure when! Still the joy is in  the modelling and  painting!😃
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on July 30, 2018, 05:52:20 PM
Here are my ships so far:
HMS Interceptor ( HMS Swift)
The Black Pearl
Royal Fortune
Queen Anne Revenge
They still need cleaning up, primed and painted and crews attached etc
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on July 30, 2018, 05:56:26 PM
The ships...
I pressed the wrong button !!!

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Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on July 30, 2018, 06:27:22 PM
Very nice - particularly the green stuff billowing sails and brass rod (?) for the flags!
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Stewart 46A on July 30, 2018, 06:49:55 PM
Very nice Miles, look forward to your painting them
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on July 31, 2018, 03:57:21 AM
Brass rod for the flags. They might be a bit too long at the moment ? But its better they are too long than short ! Got to send off to minarions for them.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: martin goddard on July 31, 2018, 07:34:18 AM
That is a whole lot of modelling there Miles. Impressive. Are they for the PBI game on Sunday?
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 01, 2018, 05:25:29 AM
It is earlier in the war.. so you never know lol
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: martin goddard on August 01, 2018, 09:28:19 AM
Do bring them along if you can Mies. We can have a gossip about ships.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Lluis of Minairons on August 01, 2018, 04:12:23 PM
Some clever ideas there, Miles... I'll have to give a try to some, soon :)

Thanks for sharing! In exchange, another possibly useful idea: have you ever tried using plasticard for making sails?
One can bend the plastic sail easily with a little heat --using a lighter, for instance.
Such is the method I've recently used for making an all-lateen sailed ship for my own collection --one called "sagetia", looking like a "xebec" at a first sight.
(Here you have it, at an early painting stage still)

(http://www.wargames.cat/soldadets/naval/g_cat_sage_00.jpg)

As I'm anything but good at handling green stuff, I'm thinking of using hand made plastic parts more often, from now on.

Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Stewart 46A on August 01, 2018, 11:01:31 PM
Looks very good LluĂ­s, you are a master of invention
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Duncan on August 02, 2018, 08:32:12 AM
I have muse.f used cardboard cut to shape for sails, but have then covered this in a thin layer of green stuff to give it some texture so that it is not too smooth looking.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 03, 2018, 05:07:36 AM
Looking very good there Luis. Trust me the more times you make the sails in green stuff the easier it becomes.
Now i ve made a few. Painting is the next job....
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 03, 2018, 08:59:44 PM
I will bring my 6 ships now with me on Sunday. As i need some advise /opinions ?
Before i go too far down the painted way.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Leslie BT on August 04, 2018, 11:29:44 AM
Are you adding the rowing boat behind the main ship?
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 08, 2018, 04:19:56 AM
Here are my 5 pirate ships and a Royal Navy sloop. So far.  I ve nearly finished the modelling side of things, i have Brassed Etched Ratlines to put on but this will be done a bit later down the line.  The Open gun ports are the ones PP do with there gun ranges. I put some on to give the side of the ships suggestions of the armaments stored within the ships ?
I need some advise about the basing of these ships ? How are others basing theres?
  I also got the Revell Spainish Galleon with the Oars ! Does anyone know how the oars were stored when in sailing mode ? Were the Oars visable ? Or were they pulled in ?
Any suggestions and help on this would be of help ?

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Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on August 08, 2018, 07:37:28 AM
Those are looking really excellent Miles!
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: martin goddard on August 08, 2018, 09:13:35 AM
The oars were used in battle to get in close. Having said that, there are reasons not to use oars.

Many seas are too rough for oars. Battles were often fought in poorer weather.
Takes a lot of men to row the oars.
Corsairs might often have slave oarsmen, but sea going ships could not maintain  large slave crews for long.
Rowing is very hard work indeed and puts men in the wrong place for fighting.
A moderate breeze coud out perform a row ship. An absence of wind was ideal for  oars. I believe Kidd's adventure galley was just that.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 08, 2018, 05:45:41 PM
That's why I asked the question, as the model has the oars deployed with the sails blowing.
So that's why I asked the question What does it look like with the oars stored away ?
Were they retracted fully in ? Or stored otherwise? It will be a while before I will get to make it.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: martin goddard on August 08, 2018, 05:51:16 PM
A good question it was too Miles. Others are probably interested too.  The oars were stored internally. Therefore they are out of sight. I would assume that the holes had bungs in them so that water cannot get in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_Galley#/media/File:The_Charles_Galley-Willem_van_de_Velde_the_Younger-2.jpg

This is the "Charles galley", Very similar. You can see the ports for the oars.

In real ife it would not be normal to have the sails billowing and the oars out. Unless the Captain wanted to keep a bad crew busy and tired. A bit like those models which have the sails blowing one way and the flags the other. Leads me onto those model box arts which have the vehicle commander pointing whilst no crew can see him.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 08, 2018, 06:36:35 PM
Ahh but it looks good !!!!
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 13, 2018, 03:52:45 AM
I ve started painting my Pirate ships.
Here is the Black Pearl.
With some Ratlines fitted
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 13, 2018, 03:58:58 AM
I can't seemed to upload pictures for some reason ? . .
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 13, 2018, 05:06:43 AM
I will try again

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Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: martin goddard on August 13, 2018, 09:35:50 AM
Those are perfect Miles. Good find. Two questions

1. Can we have the details of the purchase?
2. How tough do you think they will be?
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 13, 2018, 10:25:37 AM
Atlantic Models

http://atlanticmodels.net/photo-etched%20details/1-500%20scale.html

Photo etched details. 1/500 scale.

Not too sure, time will tell to see how robust they will be. I am hoping the sails will take most of the strain. As you know I had already braced the masts and sails with wire already.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: martin goddard on August 13, 2018, 02:36:21 PM
I did a reply to this, but it has got lost. Anyone seen it?
Will post again later.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Stewart 46A on August 13, 2018, 04:52:03 PM
Look good miles
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: martin goddard on August 13, 2018, 07:16:06 PM
Anyway. Must have forgotten to press send.

A precis of what I said is

Buyer beware. This chap dos not comply with the legalities of trading. He has no phone contact, no physical address and claims any lost in transit is the customer's fault.  All illegal.  Beware! If you are not sure these matters are illegal, do look it up.
I will not be ordering from such a trader.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Stewart 46A on August 13, 2018, 08:22:38 PM
Thanks for the heads up Martin.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 13, 2018, 09:26:02 PM
I got this with my 2 brasses etched sheets

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Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on August 14, 2018, 04:56:30 AM
When i got my articles from him. I emailed him as requested to find out the availability of said items. He gave me a price. I Paypal him the money and 3-4 days later goods arrived.
See i won't buy stuff off anyone unless i can Paypal, 9 times out of 10 now. I ve got a chance of getting something back.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: martin goddard on August 14, 2018, 09:42:18 AM
I agree with you Miles. the envelope in formation does redeem him some. So good for him.  However still illegal website.
Title: Re: POE facts of life
Post by: Leslie BT on August 14, 2018, 03:57:52 PM
Which scale were you intending to use Miles?