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martin goddard

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French Napoleonic Flags
« on: May 19, 2020, 08:48:33 AM »
Thought i should mention this because we do not seem to have had much chat about this issue.
Your thoughts?


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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2020, 09:46:30 AM »
Interesting point Martin.

How are those paras coming along? :)

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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2020, 10:16:11 AM »
Hope to get another 2 new para packs out this Sunday (after church of course).
Probably MG34 moving and grenades.

Anyway, those French flags


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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2020, 10:30:14 AM »
Paras = excellent news, thank you.

Flags - what flags....?

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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2020, 11:14:07 AM »
I think the French flag isn't a patch on the Russian Napoleonic flag.

A simple tricolour with the same 3 colours seems to lack imagination.

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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2020, 11:50:43 AM »
Isn't it also a bit - well - square?

I prefer Nepal's flag.

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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2020, 01:34:21 PM »
Ah yes Sean......but I think it had a little diamond with battle credits/tour dates on it too. How about that?
Are they distributed as 1 per regiment?

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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2020, 02:25:43 PM »
What about the British flags, Kings colour in regiment colour and the Union Jack with battle honers both with their regiment badge. Very colourful


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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2020, 03:43:31 PM »
Leads to the question of why the French only had 1 colour per regiment.
Did the French even take the colour into action? Maybe just the eagle and no flag?



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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2020, 04:47:51 PM »
Button counters the world over will be simmering with rage at the thought of this thread.

I believe that each battalion in each regiment had a colour, but only the first had an eagle. Eagles weren't supposed to go into battle, but that never stopped anyone.

The diamond colour was just a different pattern of issue. No idea which.

Then of course there are fanions which were piddly little things that were flown from muskets. I think.

That is the sum of my Napoleonic flag knowledge.

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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2020, 04:55:31 PM »
Never been much into Napoleonics myself, but as far as I know the diamond pattern French flag was used in the 1805-9 period. By Waterloo it had been replaced by the tricolour with the masses of Imperial gold embroidery, but how gradual the change was I do not know.

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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2020, 06:16:25 PM »
Thanks for the input gents.
We need to pursue this a little more.
Then this group can be the centre of all Napoleonic discussion?

What size was the flag?
It looks smaller than 6x 6 feet. Perhaps 3 x 3 feet square?

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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2020, 06:22:35 PM »
No idea - other than they certainly weren't measured in feet (quelle horreur!) - they would surely have been using le système métrique. Or they'd probably have your head for it.

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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2020, 08:44:58 PM »
There is quite a bit of info out there and many of the units did not get replacement flags for many years after the official changes - some never did officially change if I remember. It's the same with the modern uniforms/shako's. So old style flags and uniforms are ok to my mind.

As for the size, most French infantry flags were quite small if I remember rightly. That's much smaller than most other armies. A meter square or just over I think from memory.

In 15mm I did mine larger, as the smaller ones just looked weird even though they were officially right. Good luck on the Nap's I have a love/hate relationship with painting them...


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Re: French Napoleonic Flags
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2020, 03:37:11 AM »
Sharpes Eagle, the flag was attached to it. When Sharpe came back to England “Sharpes Regiment” I remember seeing bits of blue cloth still attached to it.
Size wise the flag must be smaller to the British ones ? As the flag pole looked more like a “Staff” rather than a flag pole ?
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