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Title: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Sean Clark on March 13, 2020, 08:00:56 AM
One of the largest gaming conventions in the US, Adepticon has cancelled. There are huge implications for travellers who have paid for flights andaccommodation, for traders relying on the income, the venue and the potential future of the show itself.

With the news from yesterday, Salute is still going ahead. However, the government have warned that the advice is likely to change. Schools and large gatherings aren't cancelled as yet to prevent public fatigue over more stringent measures.

Even if it does go ahead, one has to imagine attendance will be affected. Typically Excel is crammed with people not only attending Salute but other events in the other convention halls. Excel may yet take matters into their hands.

I appreciate this is a glass half empty post, but COVID19 is being branded as the worst public health emergency of our generation. It is not just flu because no one has immunity. It isn't about whether those of us who are relatively healthy are going to suffer more than nasty cold like symptoms. It's the transmission of the virus to those more vulnerable.


Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 13, 2020, 08:13:25 AM
Chinese flu
My uninformed   8) thoughts are

1. Folk who are a bit unwell will probably not risk going
B. Most gamers are up for it, especially those that have made games just for the show.
iii). Quite a few traders need the big surge in income.
7. The only "get out" for the salute warlords is if the government stop the event by legislating. Then the warlords can get their money back and hence traders get it back too.
x . Maybe the show will just be quieter and the crest of the Chinese flu will have passed.  It is 5 more weeks away.
L. We need to pay more attention to social media where the "experts"  are. 8)


martin
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 13, 2020, 09:37:55 AM
Well, we're now officially in the "Delay" phase...

The Trump Administration announcement this week banning many EU nationals seems to have set lots of hares running around the world. A colleague was literally boarding a flight to Dubrovnik this morning when the Croatian government announced that all foreign nationals would be quarantined for 14 days on arrival...

Obviously we'd hope that calm heads prevail over here, but measures are moving very quickly (I think I heard that Scotland has banned gatherings of more than 500?).

As an equally uninformed observer, I suspect that we may soon see a lot less (physical) social interaction in the UK.

Simon


Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: pbeccas (Paul) on March 13, 2020, 11:55:15 AM
Today Australia banned events with 500 or more people in attendance.  The F1 was set to go and they did not open the gates.  People were waiting in line out the front.  Another interesting thing is the virus can live on paper money for about 10 days.  Wear gloves Martin.  And Australia is about to run out of test kits so they are saying if you are sick, stay home, donít go to the doctor.  If you struggle to breath.  Call an ambulance.  And the bloody school kids are getting to stay home.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 13, 2020, 12:18:13 PM
And the bloody school kids are getting to stay home.

When we get to that stage in the UK, we know we're at crisis point  :(
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Stewart 46A on March 13, 2020, 12:45:07 PM
Being British, when itís a crisis, I will plant some potatoes and have a cup of tea.

Stewart
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Antioch (Bob) on March 13, 2020, 02:10:54 PM
Things moving very fast across the pond here... expect a possible Canadian travel ban as early as today. Our PM now undergoing personal isolation as his wife has come down with it. Many Provinces following the lead in some of the US states...banning gatherings over 250 people.

And... it seems during a huge mining convention here there were active cases & health officals are scrambling to track many many down.  Most of yesterdays news...  Today, who knows.

Bob
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 13, 2020, 02:12:00 PM
I have been looking at the map of the virus spread on the BBC website - it looks as if Dorset has so far been spared any known cases.

We now know that toothpaste enhanced with silver doesn't actually stop the disease, but maybe lead has a beneficial effect...?
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Sean Clark on March 13, 2020, 02:15:31 PM
There is a post on TMP from a trader saying that they WONT get their money back if the show is cancelled due to Excel or the government making the decision. Very harsh it seems.

I wasn't planning on going anyway but feel for those who are uncertain of whether they will benefit from the income it generates.

I have decided to place a Salute order anyway...the £100  I would spend on getting there and back will go towards my RCW which will hopefully mitigate any loss of earning should the worse happen!
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 13, 2020, 03:07:10 PM
There is a post on TMP from a trader saying that they WONT get their money back if the show is cancelled due to Excel or the government making the decision.

As per Martin's post on TMP, the legality of that would appear questionable - traders pay for a service (the show) that the provider (Warlords) fail to deliver.

Sound more like traders have a case for breach of contract if anything?
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 13, 2020, 03:10:27 PM
I saw that too Sean
Methinks that is illegal.
Something along the lines of "non supply of contracted services"?
Although the law is not always justice.

Luckily only 499 people are attending salute. Mr 500 will not be allowed in ???


martin
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 13, 2020, 03:14:25 PM
Simon
Wait a week or two and you will see that the Chinese flu avoids PPHQ due to the resin fumes and lead shielding.  "All safe out here".
I am able to offer a "games day" here at PPHQ if RFCM members want to pop down? Free of charge too.

That is a serious offer if salute is cancelled or moved to North Korea (too far for our van).


martin
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 13, 2020, 05:30:02 PM
Sounds great - Julie selling tea and buns from the back door, while Nigel casts to order?
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Sean Clark on March 14, 2020, 12:35:52 AM
Now that sounds great Martin!
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Sean Clark on March 14, 2020, 12:37:03 AM
News is saying BJ is doing a U turn and large gatherings swill be prohibited from this weekend.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on March 14, 2020, 08:45:55 AM
Sounds like an idea if Salute gets cancelled.
But surely they can Postpone the event rather than cancel ?
I ve got 2 concerts to go to in the next 3 weeks. I am worried they might get cancelled/postponed? Especially the London one  as its 3000 plus people attending.
Miles
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: John Watson on March 14, 2020, 09:27:43 AM
Trouble is places like CMEX or NEC are booked up every weekend for years ahead. Finding a slot could be difficult.
Also in fairness to BJ and the Government they have not said they would never ban massed gatherings, only that they did not plan to ban them in the near future (at the time the question was asked). So not a u-turn just a hardening of attitude.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Sean Clark on March 14, 2020, 11:00:07 AM
True John, it looks like it's come quicker than expected though after the press conference on Thursday evening.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Sean Clark on March 14, 2020, 01:24:14 PM
Unconfirmed reports from traders at Hammerhead that Salute has been cancelled  :(

Apparently there is a very sombre mood amongst the traders...
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: pbeccas (Paul) on March 14, 2020, 11:05:35 PM
If traders put their Salute show discount codes out to the worldwide community Iím sure there will be a great response.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Leslie BT on March 15, 2020, 11:04:28 AM
All cancelled here.
So time to work from home.
Several people  from our next village (St Pois)  have been taken to hospital.
Just the butchers and bakers open.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 15, 2020, 11:15:20 AM
That sounds a bit grim, Les.

Can you still get wine, cider and Calva?

Simon
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 15, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
First they come for the villagers,......
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: John Watson on March 15, 2020, 12:23:50 PM
Quelle bummer. We were booked for five days in St Mere Eglise to visit the D-Day sites and museums in a week's time. Now trying to rebook for the autumn.
John
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 15, 2020, 12:29:32 PM
Now trying to rebook for the autumn.

Which autumn...?  :P
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Leslie BT on March 15, 2020, 12:42:28 PM
Still open for the elections, Macon hoping for some more seats!

John, I do not think you'll be over, the ferries are still running, but restaurants, bars etc are closed.

All we are being asked is to go out for food, pharmaceuticals, and light exercise.

Simon all the normal supplies available, especially Calva as the elderly french use it as their medi-cas.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Big Mike on March 15, 2020, 01:26:15 PM
Phew, the Calva is getting through! Drink enough of the stuff and you will not be troubled by COVID-19.
Stewart's wartime spirit, planting spuds and drinking tea is spot on as BJ and the Govt are looking at turning arms and motor manufacturers over to respirator production.       
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 15, 2020, 01:51:47 PM
Hand sanitiser is so expensive now that we have been considering getting multi-purpose gin in at work instead.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 15, 2020, 05:35:39 PM
Simon all the normal supplies available, especially Calva as the elderly french use it as their medi-cas.

Good to hear, Les - civilisation is clearly still alive and kicking!
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Smoking gun on March 15, 2020, 08:45:35 PM
I was at Hammerhead yesterday, numbers were definitely down compared to last year. (Lots of children there enjoying the games.) Some traders were saying it was the last show for the year or at least until the autumn, difficult to tell if they were joking.

Regards,

Martin Buck
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Leslie BT on March 15, 2020, 08:49:59 PM
An event in Amsterdam in two weekends time has been postponed until later in the year. The government has closed the venue.

No club meetings around here too. Government has closed all the venues, just able to play at home. All the museums are closed for at least two weeks.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Sean Clark on March 16, 2020, 07:04:59 PM
Surely a notice from Salute can't be far away now. The latest press conference has put the question beyond doubt. So what now to do?

Well, play games and spend the money you were due to spend on the day, online. 
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 16, 2020, 07:56:12 PM
play games and spend the money you were due to spend on the day, online.

Spot-on, Sean.

Of course, we can't all get together to play for a while, since we need to adhere to social distancing guidelines.

So, what we probably need is a solo version of some of our favourite games to play in our self-isolation wards. Maybe a World War 2 theme, for a start? Maybe playing against a programmed enemy...? Wait - is RFCM yet again ahead of the rest of the world's gaming community?!

Simon
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Stewart 46A on March 16, 2020, 08:11:16 PM
Agree Simon, play test the new Enemy PBI.
My Pet/house sitting has cancelled for April as there hotels are more or less empty and flights have cancelled.
So I will be staying at home re-organising my PBI factions

Stewart
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: pbeccas (Paul) on March 16, 2020, 09:41:38 PM
Paint all the Minis are going to be doing an online convention through the Discord app.  So far 20 manufacturers have signed up.  Itís going to run for 48hrs.  If you have never used Discord before, itís pretty good and really easy to use.  Each manufacturer will have their own room in which they can do live game demos, or talk live with their fans.  Or leave vids to watch.  There will be a online show bag with manufacturer discount codes, free PDFs etc.  Looks really good.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 16, 2020, 09:48:55 PM
Paint all the Minis are going to be doing an online convention through the Discord app.  So far 20 manufacturers have signed up.  Itís going to run for 48hrs.  If you have never used Discord before, itís pretty good and really easy to use.  Each manufacturer will have their own room in which they can do live game demos, or talk live with their fans.  Or leave vids to watch.  There will be a online show bag with manufacturer discount codes, free PDFs etc.  Looks really good.

That sounds like an excellent idea!
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Radar on March 16, 2020, 10:44:37 PM
Paint all the Minis are going to be doing an online convention through the Discord app.  So far 20 manufacturers have signed up.  Itís going to run for 48hrs.  If you have never used Discord before, itís pretty good and really easy to use.  Each manufacturer will have their own room in which they can do live game demos, or talk live with their fans.  Or leave vids to watch.  There will be a online show bag with manufacturer discount codes, free PDFs etc.  Looks really good.

That sounds like an excellent idea!

An excellent idea
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: John Watson on March 16, 2020, 11:10:35 PM
If I have got to stay in for the foreseeable future I can paint my lead mountain, but will the virus last for another twenty years. I sincerely hope not.
John
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 17, 2020, 08:27:10 AM
I think the big worry facing us all is: can the PP workshop keep up with the pent-up demand from all those folk forced to self-isolate and/or work from home? Are we going to see the elves at the end of the garden working double-shifts? Will the supply chain keep up?

This could be a new golden era for high-quality 15mm products?

Maybe we need a new section for "what I've done while I've been hiding from the virus"?
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Leman on March 17, 2020, 09:02:37 AM
Donít forget to wash your hands after picking up and opening those parcels.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 17, 2020, 10:40:13 AM
Donít forget to wash your hands after picking up and opening those parcels.

It's OK - I'll lick the lead figures, which should kill any remaining bugs. Or maybe just kill me - who knows?
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: mellis1644 on March 17, 2020, 01:17:41 PM
The biggest convention here in Ontario (due this weekend) got cancelled as have all shows/concerts and public spaces etc. Libraries are all closed etc and the kids break has been extended from now to the first week in April. Shops are still open (in theory) but most people are working from home and retail hours are being reduced as fewer people are shopping, other than for the mad rush for stupid provisions. It's not a shutdown but it will have a huge impact IMO. Social distancing they are calling it.

We are not allowing 'Johnny foreigner' to bring nasty bugs into the country by denying them entry - the people not the virus (if only it were that easy).

If I were a betting man (I'm not) then I would say that Salute and many other shows will be cancelled.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 17, 2020, 01:18:09 PM
I am getting Nigel and Mike to self isolate by staying in the workshop. Family visits must stay at 12 yards distance.  We are doing important work for the nation.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 17, 2020, 01:24:38 PM
My thoughts are that Salute are waiting for the Government to announce  some sort of legislation. This would allow the Warlord club to use an insurance (if they have one?).
If this happens it may cost the government a lot in some way.
Therefore government will leave it as "advice".
Ergo salute will not be cancelled but may die a death of non attendance.
If they will not return stand fees ( which I expect them to try- force majeur) then there will be a lot of anger etc..

This is all based on my intricate knowledge of 1970-72 Vauxhall Vivas. Pretty impressive I think. ???

Anyway , we can use the thousands of square feet available  to display our pirate land arid game and trade stand to best effect.


martin
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Radar on March 17, 2020, 01:51:55 PM
Using the current advice ExCel/Salute should cancel if they follow the advice; but if they cancel it's a voluntary decision so ExCel/Salute/traders lose out financially. If they keep it 'on' they get castigated for not being in the public interest. If HM Government officially ban gatherings then insurance policies kick in. At the moment I can see a lot of small businesses taking big financial hits, which (for our hobby, as well as many others) could be catastrophic for many.

My dad had an L reg Vauxhall Viva. It was silver. Only it couldn't be called silver as they couldn't do metallic colours or something (this could be one of the made-up-things my dad spouted as gospel)
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 17, 2020, 01:57:13 PM
That would be a 1973 viva. Mark 2  or 3 (very flat). Great cars in "the day".  Junk by today's standards though. :(
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: John Watson on March 17, 2020, 01:59:20 PM
Just heard on the news from an insurance expert that insurance only kicks in for businesses if they insured for loss due to COVID-19 specifically. So these businesses that are hoping they can claim if the Government cancels events may find that they are not covered. What joy!
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Radar on March 17, 2020, 02:16:31 PM
That would be a 1973 viva. Mark 2  or 3 (very flat). Great cars in "the day".  Junk by today's standards though. :(


Clearly some serious Vauxhall Viva knowledge here.

He had a navy Viva prior to that. Vinyl seats. Went to Knowsley safari park on the hottest day of the year in it. My sister and I were stripped down to our pants on the back seat, our skin melting into the vinyl. No aircon (obviously) just the air vents that only worked when the car was moving.  Standing traffic in the animal enclosures, and a strict keep your windows closed meant we were all literally cooking in side the car. On the plus side my dad was having a metaphorical aneurism because the baboons were on sat on his car doing wee-wees and bending the aerial.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Radar on March 17, 2020, 02:18:03 PM
Just heard on the news from an insurance expert that insurance only kicks in for businesses if they insured for loss due to COVID-19 specifically. So these businesses that are hoping they can claim if the Government cancels events may find that they are not covered. What joy!

Where there's a policy, there's a way to wriggle out of paying claims. Or so it would seem to the lay person.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 17, 2020, 02:19:49 PM
Vinyl seats, no headrests, 4 gears, 4 start petrol, monoxide in the cabin and drum brakes. What a car.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 17, 2020, 03:03:16 PM
Just heard on the news from an insurance expert that insurance only kicks in for businesses if they insured for loss due to COVID-19 specifically. So these businesses that are hoping they can claim if the Government cancels events may find that they are not covered. What joy!

Where there's a policy, there's a way to wriggle out of paying claims. Or so it would seem to the lay person.

Well if traders can't predict the possible impact that previously unknown diseases might have on their business model, how can insurers possibly be held accountable? Moreover, it might distract them form counting all those policy payments they've received but won't ever have to pay out on :o
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Antioch (Bob) on March 17, 2020, 03:19:35 PM
As much as we all hate having favourite events closed it is going to be Something they have to do.

Checked in on a good friend last night who works in the industry & was at the big GAMA convention (in Los vegas I think)...which of course they went head with. There was something going around that was dubbed the Ďconvention crudí.  Well after getting home & self isolating he comes down with it (as have many) and he tells me he is off to get C19 tested this morning.

Not sure about the UK, but things in Canada are moving very quickly with closures & restrictions... we are about to be on our third day of a major address to the nation by the prime minister.  So someone will step up & close it.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Moggy on March 17, 2020, 06:01:21 PM
I have had the "act of god" thrown in my face today as well. Holiday to Canada/Alaska in May/June.  Maybe I can sue god like in that Australian Billie Connolly film?
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Leslie BT on March 17, 2020, 08:00:20 PM
How are we all fairing.

We are having to stay at home for the next two weeks, if we have to go our we need to fill in an 'Attestation' for each trip we make away from home. Even if is only to a local shop a few kilometres away. Failing to do so can evoke a fine of 130 euros.

So it do jobs around the fields, and help our neighbours in our little commune.

And now its stopped raining start and get the garden planted with the new seasons crops.

And a little hobbying, the post office seems to still be functioning so can order stuff for delivery by mail order.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Smoking gun on March 17, 2020, 08:34:58 PM

This is all based on my intricate knowledge of 1970-72 Vauxhall Vivas. Pretty impressive I think. ???

martin

My first car was a '74 Viva HC, it was so bad that I could drive (or more usually push) the car into my Dad's garage and have the bonnet off and engine out in 45 mins as I'd done it so many times. It cost me nearly two months pay to buy it and probably the same to keep it running for a year, it was only 6 years old. I learnt a lot about car mechanics which has stood me in good stead over the past years.

My current, 16 year old, Toyota cost me a months pay 4 years ago and has failed one MOT (brake pads) in that time and had a new starter motor, and some tyres in the time I've owned it.

Regards,

Martin Buck
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Big Mike on March 17, 2020, 08:37:55 PM
I learnt to drive in a Vauxhall Viva in 1970. Short coggy gear stick, engine whined like a stuck pig when I practiced my hill-start. The sporty version was called the SL90 (and why not). As the older members of society start re-taking their driving test (assuming any of us survive COVID19) I would like to find a late 60s example of this exceptional car to use. I am sure the proud owner of this classic car would be delighted to loan it.
On the current topic of closure of venues, Entoyment, the wargames centre in Poole appears to be open for business.

Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 17, 2020, 09:23:03 PM
The Viva is a legend. Not sought after by the rich though. A people's car? Good boot space.
Mine was a light blue colour with chrome handles.
Got stopped by the police whilst standing with it.
Police thought I looked suspicious.
Probably because the Viva is a gangster car? :)
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 17, 2020, 09:23:59 PM
Or perhaps just because you looked like a gangster?
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Radar on March 17, 2020, 10:07:35 PM
I doubt my dad would have had a Viva if it was a gangster car.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: mellis1644 on March 18, 2020, 12:10:43 AM
Well it's official: https://www.beastsofwar.com/forums/topic/ukge-2020-update/

Salute is postponed till next year - aka cancelled to the man on the street.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on March 18, 2020, 03:48:24 AM
It was on the cards. Hopefully All traders will get a satisfactory financial result out of this.
Miles
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on March 18, 2020, 04:05:24 AM
Of course if we are allowed to travel down to Weymouth, or Entoyment?
Would the PPHQ Salute offer still be on the table ?
If so please count me in !
Miles
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Sean Clark on March 18, 2020, 12:37:04 PM
Great idea Miles...though Enroyment may have something to say. A lot of stores with gaming areas are closing them.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 18, 2020, 01:11:35 PM
It's OK - we can go equipped. This site seems to have all we need:

https://www.preppersshop.co.uk/gas-masks--bio-suits-25-c.asp

Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Stewart 46A on March 18, 2020, 01:23:57 PM
I still have my AGR and you can get a NBC suit on eBay for £8.95
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Wardy64 on March 18, 2020, 04:17:28 PM
Worse still, kids being sent off school, wife working from home, peace destroyed  >:(

Dave
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on March 18, 2020, 04:32:08 PM
Worse still, kids being sent off school, wife working from home, peace destroyed  >:(

This is the coming apocalypse, I fear...

Simon
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 18, 2020, 04:39:34 PM
Hey!
Who is diverting this Vauxhall Viva thread with Salute stuff? :)


martin
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Smoking gun on March 18, 2020, 06:11:32 PM
Which one was yours?

(https://i.imgur.com/ppp0u2q.jpg)
HA 1963 to 66. Van version stayed in production due to fleet sales until 1983.

(https://i.imgur.com/SoDgbIa.jpg)
HB 1966 to 70.

(https://i.imgur.com/WXEwLhw.jpg)
Viva HC 1970 to 79. The last British designed Vauxhall car all subsequent models are badge engineered Opel, Suzuki or Daewoo products.

Back on track.

Martin Buck
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 18, 2020, 09:38:12 PM
The HB Martin
Thanks for locating those images.
The same company that made the Churchill tank, such grace.
Brings tears to my eyes!
A pile of memories.

martin
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Lluis of Minairons on March 18, 2020, 09:48:15 PM
I've never been to Salute yet - and believe me I so desire not less than a good Muslim wishes to go in Mecca.

I mused for a while with visiting such event this year, for my wife's retirement brought me some chances to persuade her for a quick visit in St. George's homeland (well, according to us catalans his home is down here, actually  ;) ). But after her knee got badly wounded, first, and all this pandemic flu chaos later... perhaps better to focus on reducing my unpainted lead mountain and delay projects for next year...

LluŪs
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Lluis of Minairons on March 18, 2020, 09:53:07 PM
BTW, this one was my first car back in the late 1980s:

(https://i2.bssl.es/highmotor/2013/03/simca1.jpg)
SIMCA 1000
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Radar on March 18, 2020, 10:43:51 PM
The safari park incident took place in the 63-66 version. Which was replaced by a brand spanking new 70-79 version, which most definitely did not have a stripe on the roof., or anything racey
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: martin goddard on March 19, 2020, 07:32:23 AM
Lluis are those white wall tyres?

martin

Shame more members have not called out for a Vauxhall Viva to complete our "1968 petrol station wars" range?
It would include such packs as:-
1. Impatient queuer
2. Motor cycle rider needing 2 stroke in the tank
3.Small boy collecting footballers heads from the Clevland stations.
 36. Man with petrol cap left on the car roof.


martin

PS this is not a peek into a new range. ;)
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Radar on March 19, 2020, 07:54:29 AM
Don't get me started on petrol station loyalty. Esso(?) had a promotion on free smurf figures with a full tank of fuel, but no we could only get petrol from one particular petrol station tucked away down a side street in the middle of a load of houses.

Window stickers were very definitely not allowed in the silver viva either. My sister and I were very disappointed.

Viva retrofits - locking fuel cap, wing mirrors , radio.
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Leman on March 19, 2020, 08:03:46 AM
Move Salute to Nevada - Viva Las Vegas! (Two threads in one)
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Radar on March 19, 2020, 12:13:29 PM
Move Salute to Nevada - Viva Las Vegas! (Two threads in one)
Chapeau sir
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Smoking gun on March 19, 2020, 01:32:14 PM
As I said before I had a Viva HC, in the spirit of 70's and 80's car improvement I fitted mine with: circular driving lights above the front bumper (came on with main beam), rectangular fog lights below the bumper, a 6" circular reversing light above the rear bumper, two rectangular high intensity rear fog lights below rear bumper, single tone air horns, white fibreglass whip aerial, chrome door mirrors, and a wood and leather effect centre console to house the radio cassette player. All the lights etc. were wired in correctly with relays where required under the expert supervision of my dad.

The lights were inspired by looking at rally cars in magazines, my brother had a Ford Escort mark 1 kitted out in a similar way. We fitted some high backed bucket seats in the Escort and a couple of days later decided to try the "traffic light sprint" my brother put his foot down and engaged the clutch then the front seats anchor bolts just came up through the floor, tipping the seats back, as the force on them was too great. We added some angle iron across the floor to spread load better.

Happy days.

Martin
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Big Mike on March 19, 2020, 05:33:04 PM
Ah, great photos. I passed my test in 1970 (eventually) in the HB. In 1977 whilst working for Norwich Union in Cornwall, I drove around the Duchy in a red HC. I preferred the dippy window of the HB although the HC gearbox seemed  better or maybe it was my improved driving, the high point of which was when I went round a sharp bend in the HC near St Just on two wheels after a lunch of St Austell HSD. Different times.   
Title: Re: Salute and COVID 19
Post by: Stewart 46A on March 19, 2020, 08:52:54 PM
1970, I had a green & blue choper , I went round all corners on two wheels

Stewart