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martin goddard

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Black sails
« on: August 09, 2017, 08:51:28 AM »
I have now watched three out of the four series.  I think they have been brilliant. Of course there are  some faults, but let us not go down the traditional "i need to show how much/little i know" by nit picking. Did you enjoy the series and would you recommend it? Does it encourage you to play some pirate games?? Do you prefer shore actions or naval ones?

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 12:35:26 PM »
Sadly, this is the first I've heard of it.

How is the series available?

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2017, 01:32:06 PM »
It's on Amazon Prime.

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2017, 01:38:51 PM »
Thanks Leman.

I may have to wait for the DVD version then!

martin goddard

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2017, 05:47:21 PM »
They are available quite cheaply from Amazon as DVD or from HMV.  Good value i feel.


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Re: Black sails
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2017, 06:50:56 PM »
About 50.00 for all four seasons 10 episodes a season. So not bad value if you have a weeeeek to spend watching Black Sails.

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2017, 08:09:02 PM »
Thanks, chaps, very helpful.

I haven't had even an hour to paint these last few weeks, so it might be some time before I find a week to watch them all, though :(

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2017, 10:47:54 AM »
About 50.00 for all four seasons 10 episodes a season. So not bad value if you have a weeeeek to spend watching Black Sails.

Amazon released a box set of all 4 seasons at the end of August for 40  :):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Sails-Complete-Collection-Seasons/dp/B01N6UB63H/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1504518393&sr=1-3&keywords=black+sails


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Re: Black sails
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2017, 06:47:31 PM »
I have not seen the show but I do like the idea of 15mm naval boarding actions.

Pirates doing this would be good but also fancy the same but with ancient Greek/Roman/Persian era oared ships.

Leslie BT

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2017, 02:12:29 PM »
Duncan have not player Martins excellent Pieces of Eight game?

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2017, 11:04:29 PM »
Watched the first episode last night. I'm fairly sure it's got it's problems with accuracy but I thought it was really rather good.

It made me want to play Les' Pirates game again! Are you bringing it over in November Les?

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2017, 08:59:55 AM »
I also like Black sails very much.
The nature of pirate "warfare" is that the pirate ships operated along the coastal areas. they tended not to go far out to sea. this is because naval ships could find and destroy them. Most pirate ships were pretty small. Brigs, sloops etc. A naval frigate would blow it to pieces (as can be seen in one of the black sails episodes).  In addition most pirate ships were very heavily crewed (about 70 on a smallish ship) because the aim was to capture ships and not sink them.

Now here is the problem part for gamers.

A ships fate was very rarely decided by the boarding action. it was decided by sailing/getting away or not sailing/getting away.  If the merchant ship could sail away, then game over. if the merchant ship got caught up with ,game over. Merchant ships never had enough crew to stop a boarding action (probably about 20).  So a pirate sea game should mainly consist of the pirate trying to get in contact. Pirates never boarded naval ships because there was no plunder and a well armed opposition.
Pirate v pirate is also very very rare due to the reasons stated above.

It must be remembered that pirates had a relatively short (5 year) life of action. See dates of action for all the leading pirate captains.
They were motivated by a want for plunder not a want to be killed and fight.
The same is true of modern day Somali pirates.

To this end black sails is  good.    Most current pirate games are based on pirates of the Caribbean.
This is because they have designed ships and figures that no table size can accommodate for realistic actions or in fact any realistic manoeuvre at all.  Therefore they change the action to suit the table size and sell the models. These games are very much in the fantasy/lord of the rings  camp, whilst black sails is in the plausible camp.

I am not intending to put  damper on the pirate fun. Both can be fun, I am sure and it is up to players which direction they prefer.







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Re: Black sails
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2017, 07:25:57 PM »
Sean I have not seen Stewarts propsed games list yet.  I was intending to do the Vietnam firebase game this year, have you played that yet?
I may have enough stuff for the Mountain tribes game.

It will be interesting to see how some of these ideas great inserted into the new edition of the POE in the next year or two.

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2017, 09:30:11 PM »
Agreed Les....a future iteration of PoE is an exciting prospect.

I actually haven't played a Firebase game yet so would be happy to join in.

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Re: Black sails
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2017, 08:03:06 AM »
I similarly like the idea of a new version of Pieces of Eight.

Thanks to Martin for the historical background and game design conundrum clarifications. Even though they saddened me a little: I liked to believe the Hollywood image, and the pictures conjoured up by my Ladybird "Pirates" book when I was growing up!