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Title: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on November 19, 2016, 06:40:08 PM
I want to book up next years competition as soon as I can, as it is held at Entoyment Wargames shop. Other things happen on a Saturday so I am proposing Saturday 3rd or 10 th June. A lot of the usual "local" boys have soon an interest and are happy with either date. I am awaiting to hear from SELWG at the moment?
So I need your feedback ASAP please
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: martin goddard on November 20, 2016, 11:56:51 AM
I am looking forward to it Miles.  i will be there!!!
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on November 20, 2016, 08:52:47 PM
Me too. Name the date I will ensure I'm off.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on November 23, 2016, 04:30:27 AM
I am thinking more June 10th. I will pop into Entoyment on Friday on my way down to Weymouth. I can see what is going that time of the year, I also will give Chris McNeil a ring beforehand and see what sort of things SELWG are up to.
Then hopefully we can get it sorted and start discussing over the weekend what we want in the competition next year.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on January 14, 2017, 11:06:21 AM
OK,  now we are in 2017. Can I start having names for June 10th PBI competition please. It will be at Enjoy mentioned shop somewhere in Poole, as the shop should be moving to new premises later this year. I will keep people informed on this.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Leslie BT on January 15, 2017, 04:06:37 PM
I agree Sean difficult decisions!!
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on January 15, 2017, 08:38:33 PM
Well I put this up first in mid November and we had the piggy weekend, I made it clear what I wanted to do . And now you say .......
I said after the event in July what my rough intentions were . As it is a shop that does a lot of wargaming events I have to book early on,otherwise the Saturdays have disappeared and then it's July, August,  Piggy weekend and Xmas, year gone !!!!!
As I always say talk to me.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: martin goddard on January 15, 2017, 09:47:21 PM
10th is fine for me Miles.  Short trip from weymouth!
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on February 25, 2017, 01:39:22 PM
Hello All.
I had a discussion with Stewart earlier this week about the PBI competition. As I set a date for June this year. I ve had a reasonable response from the "usual local participation" but nothing from Further afield mainly SELWG.
So I need to know between now and Salute if people want to play in the competition and when would be a good time to have it ? I know that there are other gaming competitions some people want to go to, so tell me a good time that doesn't clash ? I am happy to set these days to a date that most people will participate? Without YOU !!!! It cannot take place !!!!!!!
I now have access to a good venue, being Entoyment shop in Parkstone. As Peter there does like to promote local wargaming, and we don't have that we have to get out by....
Now wether we go for more themed gaming days ? But this can limit certain people, as some of us only have 1 or 2 armies to play with.
Then how many games we play in a day 2 or 3 ? Have a Brunch or a Lunch in between ?  This is easier a bit now as we are not on quite a tight day schedule at the shop
So please give me some feed back ? I am happy to arrange game days if people want it to happen? But I need feedback and people to play. To make these days successful you need 10-12 participants on average and from different areas if possible otherwise we can play these at normal club days.
So please I need to know where we stand by the end of April. Do you want these "Competition" days ? Dates ? And maybe themes ? How many games ?
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on March 12, 2017, 10:09:20 AM
Went down to play the new SCW game with Martin this weekend, good game, I lost but ha ho.
We did talk about PBI day. "Down with the Reich" is going to be the theme. Germans(axis forces) versus the rest ! (I have late war British if I play)
Now we can have 8 players, but many more are welcomed.(SELWG?) Price will be 6 each. 2 games and lunch, 3 games if people are quick enough, this might give you bonus points ????
Venue: will be Entoyment shop, which by the time we organise this properly would have moved. Peter is hoping to moved late May into June this year. The new venue will have a upstairs playing area. So I ve been informed.
September has been mentioned but obviously not COLOURS weekend before anyone says !!!!!!!!
Believe it or not I do look at the events calendars and try and set these days so they don't clash at least locally when possible..... so any weekend that anyone fancy ? Saturday is the preferred day unless people want it on a Sunday ?
I will give until Salute weekend for suggestions, as it gives us time to speak to (SELWG) boys to see if they want to join in ????? Then we will firm up a date and get things organised.
Please give me feedback on this ??????
I organise this competition for YOU to play and contribute in !!!!!!!
Miles
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Stewart 46A on March 13, 2017, 10:34:13 AM
Thanks Miles, any day is good as long as I am not booked tomwork
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: madaxeman on April 20, 2017, 12:00:40 PM
10th works for me
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: madaxeman on May 26, 2017, 02:39:41 PM
Am I right in guessing this isn't going to happen ..?
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Leslie BT on June 02, 2017, 03:57:25 PM
Unfortunately as far as we know this is no longer on.

Miles can yo please comment?
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on June 02, 2017, 09:08:20 PM
When I spoke with Miles on Saturday he was all for it although I know the SELWG lads have declined. I'm def8nately interested. Last I heard 24th September was the date.....
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on June 03, 2017, 07:53:05 PM
I have spoken to Peter at Entoyment. 24th September has been pencilled in.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on June 06, 2017, 06:26:13 PM
I have spoken to Peter at Entoyment, it has been pencilled in for Saturday the 24th September.
I know at the moment Peter has had a lot of problems with Poole council and the planning department regards to moving the shop to another Venue. So his mind is on the above problems at the moment. It's 90 plus % on 24th September. I will firm this up in the next 2-3 weeks. Then we can get it on websites etc.
I was hoping Entoyment would have moved by now but paper chasing officals have put their oars in....
Bloody planning officers ???
Like I have said at the moment I have stepped back a little as I am concentrating on my "mancave" at the moment so I can play some game in peace !!!!
Format for the games will be based on "Fall of The Reich" 43-45. We might try and have 2 teams the Allieds and Axis.
Miles
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on June 06, 2017, 09:43:55 PM
Like this idea Miles!
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Stewart 46A on June 07, 2017, 10:28:10 AM
Spoke to Miles this morning date for PBI is Saturday 23rd Sept not 24th
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017 Its On
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on June 07, 2017, 01:02:14 PM
A Quick note to let everyone know.
I ve booked PBI Saturday 23rd September
I ve booked CWB Saturday 4th November
Both at Entoyment shop in Poole
Prices and ticket information to follow
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on June 29, 2017, 09:06:44 AM
Information is on the Entoyment Facebook page where you can book you place as well for PBI and CWB gaming days. I will see after Bovington if these can be transferred to the normal store webpage, as it would be easier to book your tickets from there. Price is a 5. 2 games and lunch in between. We will either go and get lunch or order in ? Which is everyone's preference? So expect to bring another 4-7 for food if you want hot food ? Tea and coffee will be provided for.
Ask me or Martin for Details if you need any ?
The shop is in the process of moving but planning permission and other things are delaying it, if and when the address changes people will be informed.
Hope to see you all in September and some of you in November???
Miles
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on August 16, 2017, 11:20:38 PM
I'm almost certainly bringing late war Russians to the PBI day. I need to sort out what company to take and get some of the new figures to make another platoon.

Anyone else given it any thought on what they might take considering we are going for a Fall of the Reich theme??
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Leslie BT on August 17, 2017, 06:51:03 PM
Miles has some beautifully painted late war British with some great conversions.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: martin goddard on August 17, 2017, 09:25:50 PM
I was considering  Russian veteran scouts with no vehicles?  If they can keep out of the way of being driven over they can hold scenery well??


Otherwise I might use volksturn with stugs.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on August 17, 2017, 10:30:42 PM
Volksturm would be a good choice.
Title: A grand army of new russians for martin
Post by: Leslie BT on August 18, 2017, 04:26:38 PM
After all those Russian sculpts, its got to be raw russians just to get the most you can onto the table. With your normal tactics raw russian should go well. And you will have the satisfaction of have got a lot figures out on display.
No vehicles would leave you lots of points for the extras, mortars, hmg, smg, lmg and lots of squads.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on August 19, 2017, 12:38:10 PM
I'm either going veteran Russian or raw. I do like the idea of as many PBI on the table with no frills!
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Stewart 46A on August 19, 2017, 02:36:54 PM
I will bring a mixed force, raw average or vet, probably German, maybe French or American or even British.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: DorchesterBede on September 01, 2017, 12:17:08 PM
Miles

I should be able to make PBI day at Entoyment, is the theme still going to be late war? I can bring Americans or Germans do you know how many Axis or Allied armies you have (to avoid blue on blue).

Chris
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on September 05, 2017, 01:06:02 PM
I am still trying to find out who is coming and who is not !
Those that are going can you email me please ?
Milesm1uk@yahoo.co.uk
Then I can start working out sides etc
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Leslie BT on September 09, 2017, 11:39:32 AM
Miles I will not be able to attend.

Looks like you have 4 listed below. Is Martin bring other Weymouth residents, Wardy and any of his family.

As its PBI Peter must be wanting to play!!

Are the Bridport lads up for a game?

Have you check to see if Mark Evans is home or in the USA?

And of course you have STaB,  its not a club Sunday so some must want to attend as its so close for them. Hobbs has his Japanese and I am sure Pete L has at least one army.

Matt Hay has surfaced for HYITJ may be he can be tempted.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on September 13, 2017, 10:45:11 AM
Stewart has asked me to remind me to tell everybody about PBI games day at Entoyment in Poole.
The rough theme for the day is "Fall of the Reich"
A rough guide, timetable for the day:
Proposed start time Doors open 0800/0830. 08.30, to set up, pay entrance fee,tea and coffee etc.
First game start 0900/0930 end game 1130/1200.
Have lunch hopefully in the cafe next door. (Need to go and talk to them)
Restart 1330/1400 and end game about 1700/1730.
Give any prizes etc have discussion about good and bad points of the day/games and future prospects, pack up and go home 1800.
These are only rough timings as such but we need to have a timetable in place for the slower player to know we need to finish at sometime in the day.
Martin wants us to have 2 games and lunch in between.

I still need to know who is coming please ? I have set this up for you as requested by you and now everyone is seemingly washing their hair or dog walking or something? ? ???
I know it's on the South coast but it is where I live, so I can't help where the venue is !
I also always ask for suggestions and feedback on these events and if I don't get any I cannot react to them and change dates or how we run these events.
I very been asked what about doing something like we did for Cambrai this year with several tables and events linked, example Ardennes?  Which I would love to do as the rules will allow for a "bigger" game I think. But the problem is getting people to come, after you have arranged it.
You have asked about PBI games day/competition ? I have supplied the date and venue please turn up ?
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Stewart 46A on September 13, 2017, 12:50:41 PM
Miles was also meant to ask who can supply a game set up, i.e. Game mat and scenery for a full game?
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Leslie BT on September 13, 2017, 12:59:10 PM
Sorry Stewart I will not be able to attend.

Have a great day out, enjoy lunch in the cafe next door.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Stewart 46A on September 13, 2017, 01:35:22 PM
Washing your hair Les?
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Leslie BT on September 13, 2017, 04:50:07 PM
The way its raining here today just got to step out the door!!

No gaming with LES GUERRIERS DU MARAIS in Saint-Hilaire Petitville.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Stewart 46A on September 13, 2017, 04:59:15 PM
Bet you can't say that after a few pints of Guinness
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 13, 2017, 05:45:11 PM
Bet he can't get pints of Guinness over there anyway...
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Leslie BT on September 13, 2017, 05:47:36 PM
We can, just a 25 minute trip into Vire, a bar their keeps Guinness on draught.  The only problem is the Gendarmes who tend to keep a regular watch in this part of town.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 13, 2017, 06:58:53 PM
Wow - that is quite a find - I take it all back!

Now all you need to do is practise saying "Les Guerriers du Marais Saint-Hilaire Petitville" after 5 pints, having avoided the local constabulary...
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on September 13, 2017, 08:36:42 PM
Miles

My job is unpredicatable at the best of times. My new rota put me onto working 1 in 10 weekends around 4 weeks ago. Really sorry for not being able to make PBI. I am free to make CWB but I can never give 100% certainty of attendance.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on September 13, 2017, 08:59:04 PM
Another one bites the dust.... the list is getting shorter
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: martin goddard on September 14, 2017, 07:45:12 AM
Don't worry Miles
The Weymouth contingent will be there. they are always enough to start a good fight!  Sean travels a huge distance to get down to PP type events and each time he does I am very grateful. Don't think any other group member travels the distances that Sean does to attend PP  gaming.  Judge not. The church has to follow the hours of it's "parishioners".  Not sure if any of us travel far for a wargame day. I drove up to the midlands to take part in square bashing.  A great day , but obviously  a distance.
Sean is beyond any reproach!

It will be a good day I am sure Miles.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on September 14, 2017, 06:18:36 PM
Thank you Martin.

I do enjoy my time with you all down south and will always try to get to events. See you on Saturday and then hopefully for CWB
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: DorchesterBede on September 15, 2017, 08:57:59 AM
Luckily PBI day falls on my weekend off so I can attend. A little disappointed Sean is not attending as traditionally Sean and I compete for the wooden spoon ( I beat Sean to it at  Square Bashing day). Should be a good day, just need to re read the rules and watch the videos on the PP website. Games on a 'toy' shop what more could you want.

Chris 
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Leslie BT on September 15, 2017, 01:26:49 PM
Gaming in the toy shop certainly does compete well with gaming in a museum!!
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on September 15, 2017, 08:56:59 PM
Chris,

We can have a rematch at CWB or failing that the Piggie weekender.

Sean
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Duncan on September 19, 2017, 02:42:35 AM
In hope to pop into Entoyment on the day as I have been told I am shopping in Poole that day. Hopefully I will be able to drop my spouse and mater in the town and pick them up later giving me an hour or two free. Perhaps I will get there in time to go to the cashless Cafe with people as I intend to have my dinner there as well.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: martin goddard on September 23, 2017, 10:37:26 PM
A fine days gaming. Started with eggs bacon and sausage.  Eight players. Russians, French, Germans, Italians and US.  Some games were singles and some doubles. On game in the am and the other in the pm. I learned lots about PBI.
Game 1. Chris and martin versus Peter. Peter attacked with his Germans versus the defending Russians. Not many vehicles in the game at all just 2 SDKFX 222.A lot (9) pieces of closed scbery (houses, trees etc..)
The Germans continually rolled 1s for everything. The Germans were vets and the Russians did not move much.  This resulted in a lot of light kill fire fights.
Eventually the defending Russians won. Only a 5 turn game.
The Russians were helped a lot by smoke cancelling out German LMG firing.
An amusing incident happened when Chris sent an LMG and one other base forward to delay the new German platoon. 4 square distant the LMG killed the German PC with just 2D6.

Game 2. Martin and Miles versus Chris and Stewart. Average Germans with a couple of PzIV attacking an average Russian force of 4 x 12 base platoons. Scenery was gain quite closed with lots of rough hills, buildings and woods. A central strip of open ground made it more difficult for the Germans to get into the built up area. Left hand Russian platoon shot to bits by HE from close in Pz IV. Even the AT rifle did not stop these panzers. Germans breached the Russian centre and occupied the objective.  all very bloody. Central Russian platoon broke under the [ressure. then as if by magic Miles brought on Russian platoon 3 and t got into the right hand Russian objective pronto. Once again smoke helped minimise Russian fatalities. miles' mortar base was unable to fight off 3 bases of German bad guys.
A small victory to the attacking Germans due to their capturing an objective and slaughtering a load of Russians ( 22 bases)


Lessons learned.
1. Smoke is good at closing the enemy firepower down.
2.If the opponent has a lot of firepower retreat inside the front row of scenery and fight him at closer range.
3.Rapid arrival can be really useful with bigger platoons.
4.Don't sit on the partial cover objective, just be nearby to assault and fire upon it.
5. Arrive units in corners in order to deviate up the flank.
6. Give the infantry some effective AT weapons, not the AT rifles. they are terrible.
7. Try to give the officers offensive weapons so that they can earn their place in the front row
8. roll lots of 6,s

Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Leslie BT on September 24, 2017, 09:44:41 AM
Great to hear you all had a great day out  at Entoyment yesterday.

Is got to be a brilliant day out starting with a fry up in the cafe next door!!!!!!

Rolling lots of 1D6's will not make for a high scoring game.

Depends where you are in the arms race as to the anti-tank capabilities of your faction, sorry force.

Sounds like good games were had by all.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Sean Clark on September 24, 2017, 09:53:48 AM
Excellent report. Looking forward to CWB even more now. And I must pay Stewart for the weekender.
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Colonel Kilgore on September 24, 2017, 10:14:40 AM
That's a really useful write-up Martin, thank you.

I think PBI may be the most detailed / complex of all the current RFCM rules?

I've managed to resist the temptation so far (must stay focused...).

Sounds like another fun day's gaming.

Any more from the other participants, and/or photos to share?
Title: Re: PBI competition 2017
Post by: Smiley Miley 66 on September 24, 2017, 11:21:22 AM
Why play it's fun. You will not resist?????

Anyway I digress. Thank you All for those that Did come yesterday having 2 games was fun and not too much stressed out. And I got to play, always a bonus ! Except the late start by the shop(but we will learn for the next one; and the late finish to mine and Stewart's game in the morning... but wot a game ! I enjoyed that, going after my Churchills with Loads of Panzerfaust and Panzerschreks !!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhh ! But realistic. The Germans are on the defensive and very hard to beat. Good game one of those that could have gone either way, to the last turn...
 I think I was right never put Russian Scouts in defence???? But again another good game Stewart, Chris and Martin.
CWB in November Brekkie, game Lunch game and go home ????